jiggy Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I have a cheap rotary vise that I got from ebay and I need to upgrade.I've stripped out 3 screws on the jaws so far,trying to get it tight enough so the hook wont slip.I need a vise that can hold hooks (rock solid) because I tie with thread and pull it pretty tight.I use size 2/0 - 5/0 hooks and I want to stay with a rotary vice.The vise also needs a good warranty.What do you guys think about the cam lock jaws? I know after sitting in front of my vise for a couple of hours my fingers get tender from tightening and loosening the screws on the jaws.I'm thinking the cam lock would be more comfortable to use.What are some of the best vises for under $150?....Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Griffen Montana Mongoose. Smalljaw turned me on to the Griffen and I really like it. It's a cam lock, true rotary, and lifetime warranty. Nice case. You'll have to add just a little to that 150.- though. They can be had for less than 200 off eBay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggy Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I found 1 on ebay for $185 and watched a review video on youtube.It;s a nice looking vise and seems sturdy.I read the description online and it say "for hooks up to 4/0" Have you used hooks larger than 4/0 in the vise? If you have did it hold the larger hook well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I might have put a 5/0 in it. It would hold one, I believe. I did a bunch of 4/0 gamis in it and no problems there. It holds well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Question.... do you need a true rotary vise, or just one that rotates? I have a Peak right now with jaws that are for hooks around #1 to 8/0. True rotary. I had an Anvil Apex before, wore it out. rotating but not a true rotary. Had hooks in there from #6 to 8/0. The jaws had 2 different "wells" drilled into them. One for small hooks, the other for larger hooks. I should have bought another one instead of the peak. Why do you pull so hard on the thread while wrapping? Are you looking to flare the material, or just feel that's how it needs to be done? Just curious. Of course what you call "pulling hard" may be what I do also. I have some thread that has 5# strength, then rips. Mostly that is for the small stuff I tie, like for crappie or trout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggy Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I would just like for it to turn so I can get my skirt material even around the entire jig.I don't tie any flies only jigs (1/8oz to 3/4oz) I wouldn't say I pull it really hard.I use 210 denier and I've never broke the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I recently got into tying hair jigs for bass and bought a Griffin vice. I believe it holds up to a 7/0 hook. I've had hooks up to a 5/0 in it and there was still lots of adjustment left. It's not a true rotary, but does turn so you can rotate the jig to inspect all sides. It holds jigs really well and doesn't let the hook slip or move around. It doesn't come with all the bells and whistles like the expensive fly tying vices, but if your looking for something to tie jigs I would highly recommend it. And it's only $112 at Griffins website. It's also made in the U.S. and has a lifetime guarantee. Ben http://griffinenterprisesinc.com/modules/store/Superior-3ARP-Vise_P1297485C38776.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggy Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Thanks for the link.I'm really leaning towards a cam lock vise.I seen the Odyssey spider has a cam lock but it's only rated for up to a 4/0 hook.I've noticed that some vises hold larger hooks than what the manufacturer claims.Does anyone have an Odyssey spider that holds up to a 5/0 and how do you like it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Here is the one I had and will be getting another this spring, and the Peak will be gone. Read some of the reviews. http://www.amazon.com/Anvil-Apex-Fly-Tying-Vise/dp/B00030ADT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453494376&sr=8-1&keywords=anvil+apex Here is the one I have now. http://saltwateredge.com/fly-tying/tools/swe-rotary-jig-vise.html Edited January 22, 2016 by BLT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I have an Odyssey Spider and I've had 5/0 and 6/0 hooks in the vise and it holds really well. The thing with it is that if I was doing all hooks that size I'd go with something designed for it but if you are doing a dozen or so with smaller hooks in between then it will work for you. I do larger hooks once in awhile so the vise works for me but if you are doing 5/0 on a regular basis then you should find one meant for larger hooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggy Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Ok thanks smalljaw.I tie mostly 4/0 and 5/0 so I guess I'll keep looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 I've got an Apex Anvil on the way. I'm going to tie bucktails with it. Up to a 5/0 hook. I'll review it when it arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I received my Apex Anvil today and I'm impressed. The included base is plenty heavy enough that I can use it to hold the vise. The vise holds a 5/0 7150 or 635 hook with no problems. It has a thumb screw you can loosen to rotate the hook. It provides a very good and solid lockup and it's very easy to adjust the jaws. All in all I'm extremely happy with the vise. I paid $88 and change delivered on Amazon. Now I've got to order some more bucktails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggy Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Thanks for the review. I'm really having a hard time deciding which one to get.I have a 2a vice to use until I get one but I really miss the rotary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelhains Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) I've had the odyssey spider for a couple months and I'm really pleased with it. I've tied 7/0 treble hooks for musky sized bucktails and it holds very well. I also tie those using 10 lb powerpro braid and I put a lot of tension on the line to tie the bucktail very tight. Excellent bang for your buck. I've also been tying bass jigs up to 5/0 on it. Edited February 6, 2016 by joelhains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris brantner Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I tie hundreds of bass jigs on my 15 dollar vice I got from gander mountain. I use a 210 denier flat waxed thread. All I use are 4/0 and 5/0 hooks. I'm confused on why you need it to turn to get the material even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Kris, you don't need to turn the jig to get the material even, but it is nice to be able to get a different color exactly where you want it or to inspect it. It is also great for tying hair, especially when you do patterns of 2 separate colors where placement is critical, it is done as well on a 2A vise but on a roatary it is super easy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I've tied many teaser hooks w/o a rotating vise. Some with 4 different colors. I did it, and they came out ok, but just that much easier with the rotating vise. If I was just tying for myself and a few others, I would not have bought the rotating vise, but for the 1000's a year I do, I bought the new vise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I have a cheap rotary vise that I got from ebay and I need to upgrade.I've stripped out 3 screws on the jaws so far,trying to get it tight enough so the hook wont slip.I need a vise that can hold hooks (rock solid) because I tie with thread and pull it pretty tight.I use size 2/0 - 5/0 hooks and I want to stay with a rotary vice.The vise also needs a good warranty.What do you guys think about the cam lock jaws? I know after sitting in front of my vise for a couple of hours my fingers get tender from tightening and loosening the screws on the jaws.I'm thinking the cam lock would be more comfortable to use.What are some of the best vises for under $150?....Thanks I just saw this in the classifieds here: http://www.tackleunderground.com/tu_classifieds/_/for-sale/griffin-3-arp-vise-r1403 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masoodrayan Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Not all vise will please to all. For example, some levels prefer a model of Clamp c that will join a table through the screw pressure. Others prefer A pedestal Base. Which one chooses is personal preference, but there are all sorts of tradeoffs: for example, if you travel with your screw, the type of pedestal is heavy and annoying to carry, but it works on any surface. The c-clamp is much lighter, but sometimes, when you reach a destination you will find that there is no surface that is thin enough to accommodate the clamp. Things to consider 1. adjust and finish: This is something subjective. We were tied a one screw Thompson Model A For many years, and well it worked. It was Pflueger's medalist of viewers - cheap, not much to look at, and goffo, but he did his job. That said, we prefer to work with more precise engineering tools. Most of any $ 100 + Vite on the market these days will be super functional and aesthetically satisfying. 2. Rotability: Rotating fastening involves rotating the Hook that is in the Bolt Grips around and below the Thread (or other material), rather than wrapping the material around the Hook. Some people swear by rotating, some do not like it. No matter what camp you are in, it does no harm. Get a lathe with rotating ability if you have the other Characteristic you are looking for. 3. Grip of the jaw: This is key. The jaws should hold a hook tightly, peccato sliding. This is where the more Morse Faces stand out: they tend to hold a Hook a lot more than firmly cheaper models. This will greatly increase your satisfaction on the bench. 4. C-Clamp Quality: If you choose a C-Clamp Vite, make sure it is firmly attached. It must not move or move. The Clamp should not leave scratches or marches on your table. 5. Adjust-ability: The vice should be able to support a wide range of hook sizes. Your height should be renegotiable so you can work on a variety of Table Heights. 6. Accessory: Think if the Screw can be customized with a fork, a material tool, a parachute tool, a waste receptacle or other accessory that can be useful. You can read full details on best fly tying vise review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I have an Apex Anvil now for over 5 years now, got mine from BPS for $100, I'm sure they are a bit more now, I love mine. It pure meat and potatoes built tough. Though it's not a "true rotary" vice it rotates just fine for what I do and that is jigs, I tie hair jigs, float n fly jigs and bass jigs from finesse style to 5/0 football head jigs. Like I said its nothing fancy but for what most of us here do it's got plenty of backbone and rotation. For the price, you can not get a better vice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Forgot to mention, it comes with its own pedestal and table clamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Erick Darkman Prado said: I have an Apex Anvil now for over 5 years now, got mine from BPS for $100, I'm sure they are a bit more now, I love mine. It pure meat and potatoes built tough. Though it's not a "true rotary" vice it rotates just fine for what I do and that is jigs, I tie hair jigs, float n fly jigs and bass jigs from finesse style to 5/0 football head jigs. Like I said its nothing fancy but for what most of us here do it's got plenty of backbone and rotation. For the price, you can not get a better vice. That is where I got mine, and after 4 years and many 1000 hook teasers, and jigs tied, the clamping cam wore out. Bad for me.......they company sold out, and the new company didn't seem to interested in a fix for me. But I do love that vise. They do make a true rotary one now, but I have no need for that either. I held up to 8/0 in mine on the 4oz. spro heads. One on Amazon right now for $119, It looks like the true rotary also Edited February 14, 2017 by BLT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
