dchance Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Ok so I am tinkering with ways that were mentioned here to get smaller weedguard holes. 1. I attempted to file down a teflon pin and that was a dud. 2. I used a piece of wire and a skirt collar this worked and was the method I used, BUT due to the play in mold they were inconsistent with being centered in jighead. I would like to clean this up. Ultimately I would love a teflon pin that was simply smaller. I have been trying to get a hole to be a good fit for a jig with a 130 lb mono weedguard and another jig with about 7-10 strands of fiber weedguard for a finesse jig. I have been using a 5/64 drill bit to clean out holes I have made. I want to get away from needing to drill as it is a PITA and find a good clean method to make the smaller hole. Ideas??? Edited January 28, 2016 by dchance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 If you don't need a lot I have: .156 .140 .125 nominal sizes you can get at McMaster-Carr online I had to special order the .156 and the .140 If your close to Warsaw, you could come by and pick a few up. I use teflon spray to use on metal rods that makes them easier to pull out of lead castings. you could find some drill bits that would be the right size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) I am in Rolla. So isn't the standard 1/8 inch fiber weedguard pin .125 diameter? I am looking for smaller. like .08 ish somewhere maybe.... thanks for the teflon spray and tape ideas. that helps but my main issue is keeping the smaller diameters centered in the mold Edited January 28, 2016 by dchance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Yes 1/8 = .125 5/32 = .156 I also have .062 .078 .093 I think I got these from McMasterCarr and it is under "cord" not rod. You can email me if you want some. david at hooksolutions dot com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I do this a lot with my jigs, so much so I had a machinist take a base hole pin and shave the end down to 5/64" and cut the bottom off. The reason for cutting the bottom off is that every jig is different so I have to line it up and close the mold but it works, there is another way. Go to Speedy Metals and buy a few feet of 5/64" 304 stainless steel rod and cut 1" or 1.5" pins, then make 2 pours without hooks so you can lay the heads in the cavities. With the heads in you can use RTV silicone or JB Weld Epoxy Putty, or something like that to fill the weed guard slot and then when it sets up you can come back and cut a slot for the 5/14" pin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Dead Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 find the Teflon on amazon in the size you want and cut your own. I think that might work for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Derek you lost me about the hole sizes. You have a std. .125 teflon pin, and you want to use 7 -12 strands of weedguard material to put into the mold centered in the head. So why are you opening up the hole with a 5/32 (.156) drill bit. It is making the .125 hole even bigger. ?????? Did you mean 5/64" (.078)? This is what I would do if you don't want to have rods turned down by a machinist. Find the correct size hole you want in your jig head. Then get a piece of stainless steel wire to that diameter. Now cut yourself up a bunch of these 2" long. On one end of the wire wrap tape around the wire close to the spot where it will be up against the head but not into the cavity. Wrap enough tape, to make it around .125 diameter or a snug fit so it doesn't fall out. Once done, your hole which will be in the center of the head will be the correct hole size like the pic below. I hope I understand what you are trying to do and what I wrote is correct. Edited January 28, 2016 by cadman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Yes 1/8 = .125 5/32 = .156 I also have .062 .078 .093 I think I got these from McMasterCarr and it is under "cord" not rod. You can email me if you want some. david at hooksolutions dot com You are correct! I meant 5/64 not 5/32. I corrected my original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Derek you lost me about the hole sizes. You have a std. .125 teflon pin, and you want to use 7 -12 strands of weedguard material to put into the mold centered in the head. So why are you opening up the hole with a 5/32 (.156) drill bit. It is making the .125 hole even bigger. ?????? Did you mean 5/64" (.078)? This is what I would do if you don't want to have rods turned down by a machinist. Find the correct size hole you want in your jig head. Then get a piece of stainless steel wire to that diameter. Now cut yourself up a bunch of these 2" long. On one end of the wire wrap tape around the wire close to the spot where it will be up against the head but not into the cavity. Wrap enough tape, to make it around .125 diameter or a snug fit so it doesn't fall out. Once done, your hole which will be in the center of the head will be the correct hole size like the pic below. I hope I understand what you are trying to do and what I wrote is correct. YES! absolutely correct. my bad. I corrected my original post. I never thought of the tape idea. I will also look into other teflon sources. Great recommendations yall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) YES! absolutely correct. my bad. I corrected my original post. I never thought of the tape idea. I will also look into other teflon sources. Great recommendations yall. Derek, What you need for what you want to do is a turned down piece of rod stock like smalljaw mentioned whether steel, teflon, delrin, or the tape idea. This will always put your through hole in your jig head always dead center, as the larger stock diameter material will hold the entire pin in the mold tightly. Now if you have a drill press or a drill, and you are very careful, you can use a piece of Teflon or Delrin which is harder and chuck it into the drill press or cordless drill. Turn them on, then take a piece of steel and slowly shave off the material. As the drill turns, it will keep it concentric. Shave off as much as you need. Finally something that might be faster, it use a piece of sandpaper around the Teflon or Delrin, and with some care you can sand down the larger rod to a smaller diameter. You can do this if you take some time and be careful, naturally it would be more accurate to have someone make these for you. Let me know if you need more help. Edited January 28, 2016 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Here ya go. https://contenti.com/jewelry-casting-supplies/spin-casting/mold-making-spincasting/teflon-wire Down to .039". That size is $1.88 for 10 feet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Here ya go. https://contenti.com/jewelry-casting-supplies/spin-casting/mold-making-spincasting/teflon-wire Down to .039". That size is $1.88 for 10 feet. That is per foot. minimum order is 10. so 10 feet $18.80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted January 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Y'all are awesome. What a great resource. Back to tinkering. Thanks guys. Really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sling_blades Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Back when I was pouring an Arkie style jig, a friend wanted the mono weedguard. We took aluminum rods about an inch long to match the base hole pins, and drilled a hole in the center of them slightly larger than the line diameter. Poured the jigs with the mono right in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkin Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 I had some regular base pins that I filed down where the pin goes into the cavity. This is what I did to use the 1/16" weedguards in the 1/8" molds and it worked well. It took forever to file them down and then a fishing buddy lost them so I am looking for an alternative. My next plan is to cut some 5/64" cheap drill bits up and use heat shrink to fit them to the 1/8" cavity. Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfart9999 Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 I used 5/64 drill rod that I picked up and cut to 1 inch works great, pulls out easily and can be used for powder coating also. Rodney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EironBreaker Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Derek, here's another option if you haven't found something yet. If you get the Teflon rod size that you want, go find a piece of electric wire that the plastic is the right size to fit in the mold cavity (0.125"). Strip the wire out and slip the Teflon into the plastic sleeve. I would think the pin could be super glued in if need be. Might have to experiment to find the right sleeve size so it fits snug in the mold. If you didn't glue it in, you might be able to adjust the plastic sleeve up/down on the pin to adjust for different depth to the hook in different molds. This would keep the pin centered in the hole like you would need. I don't know if the sleeve would hold up to continuous pouring but if you made a few you could rotate to keep them cool. I use the plastic sleeve trick when pouring braided cable guards in ballhead jigs. With the sleeve I don't have to cut the wire off the roll. I can just pour, slide the sleeve further up the line and cut the wire to the right length on the finished jig. This was before I bought a handy-dandy guillotine wire cutter and didn't know any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Thanks. I have some smaller diameter Teflon cord thanks to a member. I haven't had a chance to pour any yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
