JLS Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I was recently at a show and the guy in the next booth was adding Flex and Hardener to his powder paint as an alternative to curing. I wish I'd of had a little more time to talk to him about it but it seemed like one of us was always busy. Has anyone used additives in their powder as an alternative to curing the paint and if so are the results as good? Did it affect the colors much? What are the products called and where would someone get them? Thanks so much! Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 The additives that you're talking about have been around a long time actually but it won't help with all your colors. What they do is basically cause internal heat sort of like the chemical hand warmers you can buy, low heat over a 12 hour or so duration. From the little I've heard, it only works on epoxy based powders, most of the colors we use are TGIC or polyester and polyester hybrids so I doubt the additives would even be useful on a production scale unless there is a new one out that works with all types of powder and sets up really fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Why? It's not hard to cure the paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLS Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 The why of it is because we are trying to cure hundreds of lures some days, sometimes over 1000. I'm really not interested in using it on my spinnerbaits/buzzbait heads but on my inline spinners and crappie jigs, the lutes that won't be bounced off of the rocks or have a long life expectancy. Right now we cute in an oven in our shop and not having to load/unload everything could save us a lot of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLS Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Sorry, the miss spelling is because I'm on my way to the next show and I'm fat thumbing my phone (I'm not the driver). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 It' s been quite some time since I saw it but there was a video of a curing system that worked like a conveyor I would think with a little elbow grease and some knowhow one could be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Buy/build a bigger curing oven. My friend has one large enough to roll a rack into. Racks are 3'x3' and 6' tall. He can cure thousands of jigs at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 It' s been quite some time since I saw it but there was a video of a curing system that worked like a conveyor I would think with a little elbow grease and some knowhow one could be made. That's probably the one that Illinois casting uses. It's not that great of a system since it doesn't really cure the paint. It used infrared heating elements and the items are only "cured" for a few seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 That's probably the one that Illinois casting uses. It's not that great of a system since it doesn't really cure the paint. It used infrared heating elements and the items are only "cured" for a few seconds. You may be right thats sounds familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 There is a video from Cast Industries that shows a conveyer system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLS Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I've tried using infra red heat to cure my paint and results can vary. I'm not really interested in exploring that type of system any further. I'll see what I come up with on the flex and hardener for my crappie jig and inline spinner head. I'll post the results when done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 This is the video from cast industries. I would think a bigger oven would be the ticket for you. Or some other form of automated painting system. If these chemicals cause jig heating then you would still have to rack them and let them have some cure time no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLS Posted February 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I'll have to find the contact info for the fly/jig maker that was telling me about using the flex and hardener. He was painting, tying, and packaging jigs in less than an hour from start to finish. Never hung them to cure and everyone that he handed us to look at was cool to the touch. Most of what he was building was smaller Crappie jigs but he did do some large Striper jigs with the same results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Did he do the drop test on them? The jig should dent and the paint still not chip. Looks is one thing. Paint holding up is another. Not dissing the product just looking for more info. Also what was the price point on this stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLS Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I would have loved to done that with what he was building but he was building and selling on the spot. Looking back, I wish that I had purchased one of his larger striper jigs just so I could do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
