Celticav Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Could use some advise on a rotary vise, is there enough difference between these three brands to warrant forking out the $150 difference in prices? Thanks, JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlystreamer Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Wow Jim, Personally I don't know. I was looking on ebay and if I was to be buying one, I think I'd get the Regal Rotary C-Clamp, It just looks interesting. No vise comes close to Regal's hook-holding power, ability and simplicity. Self adjusting jaws hold hooks from 6/0 to 32. Squeeze handle and jaws open. Insert hook, release handle and you're ready to tie. Streamlined vises have 360 degree rotation and 220 degree up and down movement for full visual contact. No glare black finish. C-clamp is black. ebay item # 364611306 There is the description from the ebay site. Like I said it looks very interesting. Let us know which one you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted August 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Yeah, my fly tying "mentor" uses the regal religously, but I have heard that the cheaper Cabela's Crown is just as good. JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlystreamer Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Yep, It does look as good and 36.99 even sounds better. I have that open here on my desk, been looking at it because I have been thinking about retiring my old one. It's a hard decision, because it's a used and I mean hard used piece of equipment. I probably won't make the purchases until I get ready to get down to business in the late fall when I do most of my continuous tying for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavu Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I have one of the "knock Off" models and it works pretty well. The only problem I have wqith it is the round knob on the back that holds the tension on the part that turns 360 degrees gets loose real easy. I find that I have to afdjust it two or three times in each item I tie. When the thing is loose and you need to press the hook release, it wants to wobble around. Other than that, I don't have much to compare it to. For the last 25 years I have used a Herter;s model 3 and a Herter's model 11. didn't know anything better was available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlystreamer Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 The one I'm retiring this year is a Herter's model 4. It's a good vice but loosing it's grip. I've been doing a lot of looking lately. It'll be interesting to see what I finally decide on. Probably the one I buy won't last 50 some odd years that this one has lasted. No, I haven't used it that long, It was my Dad's. It's possible that it's older then that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted August 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Hey Cavu, will a tension washer help that? You know those bent looking washers thingys...seems it would fix that, if you try it let us know how it works, JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavu Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Good idea. I'll go out and get one today and give it a try. Let you all know how it works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tm Customs Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 hey guy's I am not a fly tier but do now some jigs now and then. I have the cabelas one and it works great, but I have only had one other that was junk so I really dont have much to compare it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted September 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Ok, heres the update on the vise question for those interested: I got a Royal and compared it to a friends Regal and can tell very little difference between them besides cosmetic. With a $20 price tag vs. the $160 Regal I feel pretty good about it, JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavu Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Jim Never did get around to trying the washer thing. Does yours work lose when rotating the head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted September 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 I am not having that problem so far, but I am usually just rotating the bait to get around the wire or weedguard better. I will put it thru some test baits and see if I am having the same thing happen...I am also building a tying desk as time permits, will post pics when/if I get done, JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Sal Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Hey guys, I carry and sell the Royale vises. I can say that EVERYONE who has used them loves them. The biggest reasons are they hold just as well, and they are CHEAP! I know some guys who put over 1,000 dozen through them with no problems. I can tell you what the differences are: 1. The knobs do loosen up on them. 2. They do not easly grip #20 or smaller hooks, or at least as the Regals do 3. No warranty Otherwise the problems with them are the same as a Regal If you try to tie too small of hooks, #22 #24 and put them too close to the edge of the jaw they MIGHT chip When I go to shows, I take one and demonstrate the holding strength by putting a #8 streamers hook in it and breaking the hook off WITHOUT the tip of the hook ever moving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticav Posted October 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Doesn't the Regal have to use those "Midge" jaws they sell to properly hold these hooks also? JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Sal Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Yea, but I know a lot of shops that sell them and they say that when they are returned, they are done so because they are chipped. It happens because guys try to put size 24 or smaller in, and put it up at the very tip. I think it has something to do with the tempering / hardening of the jaws, and the very strong gripping power. Bottom line I think they are the best and easiest to use design out there. You can go from #8 to #2/0 with just a squeeze. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 I have one of little sal's vises. And the easy of opening and the grip of the jaws are great. One size fits all the hook sizes I need. For the price these can not be beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkners Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 I have broken the jaws on two of the Crown vises tying large saltwater flies. They are a good buy for the money but be careful of putting anything larger than a 2/0 hook in them. The heat treat/tempering of the jaws is too hard and breakage or chipping will result. When it comes to vises you do get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlystreamer Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Hey Jim and the rest of you guys looking for a good vise. If you are still looking, check out www.hmhvises.com Pretty nice piece of equipment. I bought one today. My old Thompson had about bit the dust. I got the silhouette rotary vise with the c-clamp. Now I feel like tying. Very nice vise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
