Chance_Taker4 Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 If this was already posted I'm sorry I couldn't find it. I am starting to sell plastic baits. I normally paint and sell cranks and only pour for private use. However I dont know the cost breakdown. Can someone tell me how many stick baits can be made with a gallon of Plasisol. 2oz or color, 2oz of glitter and a pint of softener. Those numbers can help me determine my cost per bait more effectivly, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 See how many you can make with a cup and multiply by 16. That will get you close, although the actual number will be a little higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 For 5" sticks....360 for most injection molds and 400 for hand pour per. Gallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance_Taker4 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Thanks guys. From,my calculations it,costs me roughly .37 a bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majic man Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 You got to buy bigger quantitys of materials. You should be able to make a stick bait for about .15-.20 At 30.00 a gallon the plastic cost you .085 at 350 count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance_Taker4 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 You got to buy bigger quantitys of materials. You should be able to make a stick bait for about .15-.20 At 30.00 a gallon the plastic cost you .085 at 350 count. $30 a gallon at 350 is $.09. I buy 4oz coloring and glitter, a quart of softener, pint of oil/scent. Where can I find plastisol for $30. The cheapest I found is $40 at bait junkys but then $28 shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Baitjunkys is about $150 for 5 gals with ship 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I recently reviewed in depth financial with the owner of, what is now, a moderately successful bait business. what I mean by that is that he is able to pretax net $10-12 per hr, cover material and utility costs but without consideration of capital startup. An early business mistake was counting on volume to cover low per unit material costs. The business just ended up with excess inventory. He now pays more per unit by purchasing smaller quantities but is more profitable by getting materials based on customer orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archery1 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Baitjunkys is about $150 for 5 gals with ship bout 150.00 for 6 gallons shipped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 bout 150.00 for 6 gallons shipped Brand X just cost me $190 for 5 gals shipped ($38/gal). I might have to give Bj's a test run to see how it compares @ $25/gal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I just bought a 5 pack from BJ. I just checked and sure enough there are 6 gallons in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance_Taker4 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Brand X just cost me $190 for 5 gals shipped ($38/gal). I might have to give Bj's a test run to see how it compares @ $25/gal I personally love BJs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance_Taker4 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I never planned on selling plastic baits. I am just recently being asked to because I was successful last season and won my clubs CoAngler Championship using only my baits. So normally A gallon would last me a while just pouring what I needed. Until my order volume rises it is in my best interest to order a gallon at a time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Price them high enough that you don't feel used when you sell them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 The labor is where the cost is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbucks Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 M and F is by far the best plastic on the market but probably the most expensive! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 M and F is by far the best plastic on the market but probably the most expensive! I'm with ya! M-F has been my exclusive plastic for 20 years....love the stuff!!! Have you tried Bj's yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I really like the BJ's. But I always used Calhouns anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrynekai Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Calhouns I still have 6 or 7 Gals of the stuff....what a foaming mess. I purchased 10 gallons of it way back in the day...used 2 or 3 gallons of it and just couldn't get rid of the bubble issue. Manu wouldn't take back at the time, so I got stuck with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 I still have 6 or 7 Gals of the stuff....what a foaming mess. I purchased 10 gallons of it way back in the day...used 2 or 3 gallons of it and just couldn't get rid of the bubble issue. Manu wouldn't take back at the time, so I got stuck with it Maybe you should think about using baitjunkies then cause it is calhouns. The six gallon pack is not vacumned so it will have bubbles in a microwave. There other one is the same thing but has been vacuumed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Maybe you should think about using baitjunkies then cause it is calhouns. The six gallon pack is not vacumned so it will have bubbles in a microwave. There other one is the same thing but has been vacuumed. Frank, can a person vacuum their plastic themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Sure you can. I do it before I shoot any bait just in case. It takes about a minute and your plastic will be bubble free. It takes a pump that can pull 29.4 in of vacuum. This way you can buy the least expensive plastic and get bubble free plastic all the time without the premium price. Oh and one note on plastic price if you want the best price buy it in a drum and vacumn it your self, you will save a bundle. But then you will have to buy it from someone who makes it and not a reseller. I am talking about $18 a gallon to your door. With the money you save buy a vacumn system and save for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majic man Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Keep in mind doing so, you got to mix it and get it out of that drum. Which is not that difficult, but if not done right you can ruin the shore hardness of a barrel really quickly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) Thanks. I had a neighbor, in a previous life, who used to buy fiberglass by the drum. I helped him move those drums with the specialized dolly he had, and load it onto his storage rack. That ranks right up there with moving carpet and moving steel beams as something I no longer want to ever have to do again. That was forty years ago. He lived five houses down, and I can still remember the smell when he was fiberglassing something in his garage. Edited March 8, 2016 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majic man Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Every plastic bait maker should own one of these IMO.. http://www.bestvaluevacs.com/3gvackit.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
