Leatherhead Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Hello All. Ive started making my own spinnerbaits and have a question. When I paint the heads, I first powder coat them then I go back the next day and air brush my detail using createx water baser paint. I let that dry over night then I clear coat with clear finger nail polish. What i have noticed is that the clear fingernail polish wrinkles my paint. What should I be doing ? Thanks for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Try Devcon 2 Ton epoxy, it won't react with the createx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 In addition to Basseducer's suggestion above, the createx must be heat set to fix the paint. This is done with a hair dryer. Plenty of reading on this subject under the search function. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 You can even skip the powder coat.. Ive been brushing water based paints directly on worm weights, then coating with thinned epoxy (Devcon 2 ton + denatured alcohol)... Mix a little glitter in the epoxy, looks quite nice if i do say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherhead Posted March 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Thank you Basseducer and Vodkaman. I will definately give those a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherhead Posted March 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 You can even skip the powder coat.. Ive been brushing water based paints directly on worm weights, then coating with thinned epoxy (Devcon 2 ton + denatured alcohol)... Mix a little glitter in the epoxy, looks quite nice if i do say! JRammit, is there a certain ratio to mix the devcon and denatured alcohol, and do you brush that on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Try KBS diamond Clear and thin 20-30% with Zylol/Zylene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 JRammit, is there a certain ratio to mix the devcon and denatured alcohol, and do you brush that on. I dont measure, i just mix in a few drops at a time til its the consistency i want... MAKE SURE you mix the 2 parts well before adding the alcohol And yes, you brush it on.. It would not get along well with an airbrush! In my shop, D2T is like franks red hot sauce... I put that sh*t on everything! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 You need to be careful adding denatured alcohol to D2T, every time I've tried it I would always end up with bubbles in the finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherhead Posted March 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Should i be using air brush paint that is not water based, would that make clear coating easier ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 I wouldn't, just be sure to heat set each color with the hairdryer. Wait a day to clear if you want to ensure the paint is completely dry, but not required when using the heat set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 I dont know all the chemical details, but from my experience, if it stinks it eats paint.. Polyurethane, nail polish, laquer ect.. Epoxy doesnt stink, so it doesnt eat paint.. Im sure someone has a better exolaination than that As for the bubbles, if you stir vigorously round and round, you will have alot of bubbles... If you "fold mix" (for lack of a better term"), you will have less bubbles... The brush usually gets rid of all the bubbles durring application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherhead Posted March 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 I wouldn't, just be sure to heat set each color with the hairdryer. Wait a day to clear if you want to ensure the paint is completely dry, but not required when using the heat set. Thanks for the help, so all I have to do is heat set it , give it a day to cure , and i could fish it? Im still learning about paints and thought that it would basically wash off in water if it wasnt clear coated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 I dont know all the chemical details, but from my experience, if it stinks it eats paint.. Polyurethane, nail polish, laquer ect.. Guess i've been lucky.I use Sally Hansons Hard As Nails to paint head & eyes then wait until the next day & put a good heavy coat of clear hard as nails on & have never had a problem as far as spinnerbaits go. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 No, heat set and immediately topcoat. Without a top coat, heat set or not, the paint will rub and chip off in no time. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 I dont heat set mine.. Unless you count setting it in front of a lamp Thing about epoxy, dont matter whats under it, it ain't comin off!... You could scribble crayons on your spinner baits, cover in epoxy and its there forever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Thanks for the help, so all I have to do is heat set it , give it a day to cure , and i could fish it? Im still learning about paints and thought that it would basically wash off in water if it wasnt clear coated. You can't fish the create waterbased paint without a topcoat. Paint, heat set, top coat, let cure at least 24 hours (I wait 72) then fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherhead Posted March 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Thanks to everyone for the advice. I appreciate it very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bois d'Arc Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) I've used Createx paints to put a pattern on lead head spinner baits with great results. Base coat with opaque white then paint whatever pattern you want. Heat setting is necessary with Airbrush colors, not so much with Wicked colors. I use Devcon epoxy thinned down with denatured alcohol to clear coat the head. Be sure to mix the two part epoxy well before adding denatured alcohol. I use a disposable plastic shot cup for the mix and an an eyedropper to add alcohol to the mix then stir it in thoroughly. As for the bubbles, just cup your hand over the shot cup and exhale into it a few times. Just like magic the bubbles will rise to the surface and disappear. Apply the epoxy sparingly so as to avoid blobs on the hook, hook eye or wire. An LED desk lamp will show any voids in the epoxy when held at angles to the light. I normally put the lure on a turner for about 15 minutes then once the epoxy is levelled and set, hang the lure in a dehydrator at about 95 -105 degrees for 30-45 minutes. Comes out hard as a nail and looking good. I'm sure there are other methods that work just as well...just sayin' this one works for me. Keep thinking good thoughts! Edited April 1, 2016 by BoisArc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherhead Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I've used Createx paints to put a pattern on lead head spinner baits with great results. Base coat with opaque white then paint whatever pattern you want. Heat setting is necessary with Airbrush colors, not so much with Wicked colors. I use Devcon epoxy thinned down with denatured alcohol to clear coat the head. Be sure to mix the two part epoxy well before adding denatured alcohol. I use a disposable plastic shot cup for the mix and an an eyedropper to add alcohol to the mix then stir it in thoroughly. As for the bubbles, just cup your hand over the shot cup and exhale into it a few times. Just like magic the bubbles will rise to the surface and disappear. Apply the epoxy sparingly so as to avoid blobs on the hook, hook eye or wire. An LED desk lamp will show any voids in the epoxy when held at angles to the light. I normally put the lure on a turner for about 15 minutes then once the epoxy is levelled and set, hang the lure in a dehydrator at about 95 -105 degrees for 30-45 minutes. Comes out hard as a nail and looking good. I'm sure there are other methods that work just as well...just sayin' this one works for me. Keep thinking good thoughts! thanks for the great info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
