riverotter Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 looking for a good cbc mill that will do swim baits. anyone got any experience with these. I would like to keep the price under 10k. any and all help is appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I am a toolmaker by trade and have been running CNC's for the last fifteen years. I see there are quite a few benchtop models available in your price range. My only concern with these would be rigidity. Some of them look pretty flimsy. What software do you plan to program with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I don't know to much about it. seems most come with mach3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 i hadn't really looked at the benchtop machines. I was looking at a smithy or tormach both over 15k by the time you got accessories you needed. I may look into the tiag it seems a little heavier built than the sherline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I am assuming you want a CNC to do 3D milling of the baits. Most machines are only capable of full 3D machining if it is programmed from a software system such as Mastercam. This looks to be the case with the mach3 software as well. It is only going to be able to give you simple shapes such as circles and rectangles. That is referred to as 2 1/2D as opposed to full 3D. My suggestion would be to look into Autodesk Fusion360. It is a really strong design package that has a machining component built in and, best of all, it is free to students and startup businesses and diy people like yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted April 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 awesome ty I will go check the autodesk out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted April 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 my plan was to attempt to mill one side then flip the piece and mill the back side. thought about a 4th axis but that's going to be to time consuming I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 awesome th for the info. I would lie to see them jigs you made to give me some ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) I know I'm a little late on posting on this thread. I designed and made a duplicator for cranks and anything else that I need to duplicate. I know it's not the machine that is being discussed. It does a great job, but after sanding the cranks and trying a few by hand. I found myself liking to do them by hand. Although I can "crank" them out if I like using the duplicator. LOL Seriously, I do like doing them by hand. Just my two cents, Dale Edited April 27, 2016 by DaleSW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted May 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 i got a cnc router. running uccnc and fusion. now if i can figure out how to design my baits in fusion ill be ok lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 yea I have the uc100 it seems to work perfect. I have only cut out the files that are already created to test the machine tho. as I'm still to dumb to create my own. would gladly pay someone to do it and send me the files so I could cut them if its possible lol. I only run the uccnc program alone. if its up everything else is closed. well I did make a circle and cut it out. I must say its a dam nice circle to lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 lol I'm trying. still up at 1:50am giving it hell. I believe by this time tomorrow I should maybe have one workable 3d model. I'm just going to go with vectric cut 3d to create my tool paths I think. I played around with it. it seems pretty simple. I like the photo v carve they have to. I want to cut a portrait out of my boy, as a late mothers day present to my wife and both grandmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 i got vectric cut 3d to create my tool paths. its 300$ but so far it and my uc100 usb controller hasnt made a mistake that i didnt cause lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 super nice video. now i may have to give that a try. lol man this is all giving me a headache. i did figure out how to get good results with 2 sided machining. might be a long way around but it worked. after the finish cut one the top side. i went to zero . then from there jogged the y axis up and drilled a 1/8th hole. then jogged to the other end on the y axis drilled another hole. i had some nails here that was just a hair over 1/8 that i used for a dowell. flipped the wood over mirrored the image and cut the back side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 wow thats cheating....lol wtf i got to laugh at this..im all old school and thinking i could of used this many years ago......thanks for the share bob....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 I gotta try that bob. mine ain't to reusable unless I wanted to record the holes from home position. then maybe I could still them in the same spot every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Works in a vise too. Just have to KNOW your vise is square. I use soft jaws, and true them to the machine by cutting a step in them. Gets me square and reduces the need for parallels. too. This a fun thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 where can i buy a vice at. I have a few but none that will fit on my router lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowFISH Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I machine two sided stuff but really cheat..... Instead of mounting directly to my table - I have a piece of renshape bolted to the cnc bed and faced flat. This let's me machine holes right into it as necessary and saves me when I screw up a tooling path. (It happens!!!) I clamp down my material and machine the first half - as soon as my part is finished... I use the mill to place two 1/4" diameter holes on the axis I'm going to flip - I machine through the material of the part and into the ren on the table a good 1/4-1/2" deep. I then unclamp - push two 1/4 dowels into the ren and then push the part over the dowels. Then clamp down. Done. What I like about this method is I never have to worry about zeroing against vice/mold or using anything to index the machine - and if something happens (blow a breaker, have your 5 year old shut off your computer while machining - yeah it happens) I can pic the part up - rezero the machine somewhere on the bed - drill two new holes - push the part down and keep going. It works great for making soft-bait molds... as I use the holes I drill as the alignment pins to keep the halves together - so I can keep remounting the mold on my cnc effortlessly and tweak like crazy without worry of being off. Hope this helps. J. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Bob, I am digging that infinity vise! I have access to a Haas mini-mill at work which almost always has a vise set up so I went with a fixture that I flip. Locating is a breeze because it has a Renishaw probe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted May 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 now that Is what I need bob. right now I have a sacrificial piece of mdf. drilling holes and using dowells. I did make a pretty cool bait tonight. don't know how to post pics here. but it's a 8.5 in bass. thanks to my wife for helping put the design in 3d. she took a picture and about 10 hours later had a nice 3d model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverotter Posted May 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 posted a pic in the gallery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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riverotter Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 lol I was happy with the outcome. she made it using a combo of photo shop and vectric aspire. I made the vectors for the fins haha. then I cut it out with cut 3d. couldn't figure out how to resize o t and stuff in aspire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
