goldenshinner Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Curious about non comercialy made color additives...for example older worms that were motor oil looked like oil,is that the origin of that color name.. Are there synthetic or otherwise motor oils that will work.how about paint pigments assuming one could get there hands on the actual concentrate used to manufacture latex paints...how about dry food color pigments...any other home brew pigments that will work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleyeking Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Lots of that stuff works. I've used powder paint for jigs and pearlex makes some real cool colors. Automotive paint additives like pearls also works in plastic. Just don't use anything water based and experiment with that kind of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Lots of that stuff works. I've used powder paint for jigs and pearlex makes some real cool colors. Automotive paint additives like pearls also works in plastic. Just don't use anything water based and experiment with that kind of stuff. Dry pearls work do not get the solvent or water based ones. Or if you are real gutsy get your wife makeup it will work. Bare minerals make up is best as most of it is dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenshinner Posted April 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 How does the old oil work.do you have to blend it in with plastisol unreached first, then blend a few drops of that int . The final mix.I read on this forum that adding oil to plastics will cause it to become hard as it ages Unreacted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenshinner Posted April 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Anyone try lazer printer color toner..its designed for high temperatures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 How does the old oil work.do you have to blend it in with plastisol unreached first, then blend a few drops of that int . The final mix.I read on this forum that adding oil to plastics will cause it to become hard as it agesUnreacted Are you asking about how to add motor oil to plastic or motor oil colorant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATFLATTIE Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Why would you ever wanna add actual motor oil (or any unscented oil based product) to a lure? I don't understand why you couldn't just use a regular colorant made for that purpose to get the color you are looking for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenshinner Posted April 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 I have used the colorant comercialy made stuff.it looks different than the old motor oil from 80s that I remember .just in intellectual discussion I am curious if there was originally a motor oil oil based that was added and used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Well all I have to say about that is there is not only one motor oil. You will just have to shop around till you find one you like. Even then you will have to play with the amount of colorant you use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 I made some motor oil yesterday. MF changeable took 60 drops in about 5 oz. of plastic to get the color I wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 As said motor oil color from each manufacturer is different. LC is green Bears and MF changeable is greenish but amber in the light. Some people use amber and add green hilite. I never tried other brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenshinner Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 How about food dye stuffs? Any one experiment with any care to comment.should be heat tollerent.I remember as a kid there were guys pouring custom skate board wheels those were urathane..but they had nice fruity smell like cool aid when you used them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 How about food dye stuffs? Any one experiment with any care to comment.should be heat tollerent.I remember as a kid there were guys pouring custom skate board wheels those were urathane..but they had nice fruity smell like cool aid when you used them NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is water based and water and hot plastic don't mix. Think of tossing water in a pot of hot cooking oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenshinner Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 not to beat a dead horse, i am very interested in this dyestuff topic. not much being discussed. very interesting. i think i can find more information being shared on some chemistry forums. the dyestuffs from food source is water based, cannot the water portion be boiled off slowly, before mixing in with liquid plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenshinner Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 for sure the dry dyestuffs can be blended into the liquid plastic.. anyone using vital dyes, i know these are very dangerous colorants, as they permanently stain and are absorbed by the body. amazingly for an intense hobby, not much information is shared about what these dyes are that are being used. if they are vital dyestuff from chemistry/biological stains, they are very dangerous for long term health. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 I have a drawer full of stuff I tried as colorants when I first started pouring, like my kids' old crayons, and candle wax colors. I learned pretty quickly it's much easier and safer to just use the colorants sold by the various plastisol suppliers, because they are designed for soft plastic baits. They actually work and the results are consistent and repeatable. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 As soon as I saw the OP I responded then deleted, did that about a few times as I do on many subject matters I see discussed. Lure makers have a knack to spend a lot of effort and time to reinvent the wheel . Rarely are we honest to point out our wheel rolls like crap to readily available wheels however I am with Mark start with what is readily available. Now as far as color matching a specific motor oil going to be tough as mentioned as the color has changed so much. I always liked Del's motor oil (may be the same as others don't know) It really isnt' a color I use much anymore. Can you find a picture of the color as easier to match that way....however going by memory is often better as in the end most always get the color just the way they remember it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenshinner Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 Not looking to add wax crayons..I got family and friends that are involved with research in chemical engineering paints and other dyestuffs. U know compared to the few hundred main stream colorants that seem to be in use in soft plastics there is countless others that are not..and many have unbelievable colors spectrum that will not be possible with what I have seen available.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenshinner Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 Just curious what others know on this subject..I will poke around on some foreign forums also,as no one here probably knows what I am researching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff@mf Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) I think now days in new cars i've seen real motor oil for vehicles that is purple so now it could a rainbow of motor oil colors, just like watermelon green. The watermelon I or anyone eat does not look like the watermelon fished with in most cases. Edited April 6, 2016 by jeff@mf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
