Baits Sliding Down Hook

[Les Young]

What could be causing my baits to slide down or not cling to the  hook a lot more than a lot of  the big brand names? Specifically zoom baits.  I noticed it lastnight on some that a member on another forum sent me. The ones that i shot on my own don't seem to grip as well as the big name brand, but were staying in position a lot better than his were. Both mine & his were from  identical molds from the same mold maker. I'm not using salt either if that makes a difference & using spike it medium plastic. Thanks

[toadfrog]

Softer the bait the more  slip you git . Maybe you plastics are softer . Put a speck or 2 super glue on the shank and go for it .

[Apdriver]

Toady is spot on, of course. Zoom does use a little salt which will stiffen the bait up some. Also you don't say if you're using soft, medium, or hard. Most of us use medium and add softener if we want a soft bait. For me, medium works well and I don't notice any problems with baits not holding on the hook. Usually don't add softener unless using salt to counteract it's effects.

[Les Young]

Apdriver, i'm using spikeits medium pourasol for the plastic & no salt. I will however be getting some salt to try to milk the color a bit so i'll see if that helps. Thanks guys.

[mark poulson]

If you add scent and/or heat stabilizer, that will soften the plastic, too.

[Les Young]

Mark, thanks.I'm just using worm oil. I may add scent,but i'm not right now & don't plan on using stabilizer unless it becomes a necessity as i'm trying to keep it very simple or my little pea brain could very well go on overload. lol

Edited May 16, 2016 by Les Young

[mark poulson]

I think worm oil will also cause your baits to soften if you add it before you pour.

[Les Young]

Mark, I'm only adding it when packaging.

[Senkosam]

What style lure and how rigged? I came up with a solution over ten years ago for T rigged soft plastics, trailers on skirted jigs and grubs rigged on ballhead jigs. Just a bit of craft wire does the trick for all.

[Jig Man]

Personally, I like for my plastics to slide up the line when I set the hook so there is nothing balled up in the mouth that can stop the hook penetration.

[Victor Monsanto]

What style lure and how rigged? I came up with a solution over ten years ago for T rigged soft plastics, trailers on skirted jigs and grubs rigged on ballhead jigs. Just a bit of craft wire does the trick for all.

 

Is your solution similar to this http://www.hitchseries.com/#!__the-bait-hitch ? Ive been using these with decent success but am always looking for little bait keeping tricks if you wouldn't mind sharing.

[Chuck Young]

Is your solution similar to this http://www.hitchseries.com/#!__the-bait-hitch ? Ive been using these with decent success but am always looking for little bait keeping tricks if you wouldn't mind sharing.

Clever! Very clever. Might make it a little more weedless too!

[mark poulson]

If you tie your own skirts, try using some .024 galvanized wire (Home Depot) as a final wrap, and leave 1 1/4"+- tag ends.  Twist and pull the tag ends until you have a tightly twisted tail that's 3/3 to 1" long.  

I do this with my jigs and spinnerbaits facing down, so the tag end is on the underside.

Cut off the untwisted part that you held (with small vise grips) as you twisted, and then fold the twisted tag end back toward the hook.

When you slide on your trailer, make sure the twisted tag goes into it parallel to the hook shaft as you slide it on.

I have caught half a dozen spinnerbait fish with one grub trailer before I had it slide down, and then all I did was slide it back up, and put the twist wire into the trailer at a slightly different spot.

When the hook tears one side, rotate it 180 degrees, and you can just keep using the same trailer for another dozen fish, or until it gets too torn up to hold anymore.

Edited June 3, 2016 by mark poulson

[Les Young]

The bait is the dels 4" shz. After it cured longer it has appeared to help some. Thanks guys

[Chuck Young]

I have these great jig heads with a wire keeper. they are awesome at holding the bait, but they also tear it up pretty good.

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Round-Head-JigbrSz-116-332brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Wire-Holder_p_1138.html

[mark poulson]

The twist wire holds well without tearing up the bait.

[Chuck Young]

I was wondering how well the twisties worked. Guess I will have ti try some.

[Skimpy]

The bait is the dels 4" shz. After it cured longer it has appeared to help some. Thanks guys

That's an awesome bait !!! I have the 5" one. I wanna get the 4".

[Les Young]

Skimpy, yes it is. This style bait has put a lot of fish in the boat & dollars in folks pocket around hete.

[Senkosam]

I came up with this idea 10 year ago and now prefer barbless jigs or cut the barb off using a wire cutter.

1. 24g coated floral arrangement wire

2. Wrap once around the base of the line tie and snip on side close to it.

3. Cut the other end so the wire when bent is midway down the lure when the wire end is pushed into it. (picture)

 

Note: Smaller jigs can take a smaller gauge wire, but 24g works for this and other applications such as skirted jig & trailers and swimbait hooks.

 

Won't leave home without them installed and they won't " tear up the bait ".

 

 

Note the wire trailer holder (arrow) attached with the skirt using a wire tie.

 

Not only can baits be reused after catching over a dozen fish, but the baits stay up on the hook. My idea differs in that the lure holder is attached to each device permanently, ready to use when changing baits.

Edited July 16, 2016 by Senkosam

[RayburnGuy]

I came up with this idea 10 year ago and now prefer barbless jigs or cut the barb off using a wire cutter.

1. 24g coated floral arrangement wire

grub lock 24g wire.jpg

2. Wrap once around the base of the line tie and snip on side close to it.

3. Cut the other end so the wire when bent is midway down the lure when the wire end is pushed into it. (picture)

four flat side grub.jpg

 

Note: Smaller jigs can take a smaller gauge wire, but 24g works for this and other applications such as skirted jig & trailers and swimbait hooks.

 

Won't leave home without them installed and they won't " tear up the bait ".

jig box_wire holders.jpg

jigs with wire attached.jpg

 

 

Note the wire trailer holder (arrow) attached with the skirt using a wire tie.

zip tie_skirted jig and trailer holder.jpg

 

Not only can baits be reused after catching over a dozen fish, but the baits stay up on the hook. My idea differs in that the lure holder is attached to each device permanently, ready to use when changing baits.

 

I think Mark Davis does something similar to that. If I can find the article about it I'll post a picture.

 

Ben

[Chuck Young]

I came up with this idea 10 year ago and now prefer barbless jigs or cut the barb off using a wire cutter.

1. 24g coated floral arrangement wire

grub lock 24g wire.jpg

2. Wrap once around the base of the line tie and snip on side close to it.

3. Cut the other end so the wire when bent is midway down the lure when the wire end is pushed into it. (picture)

four flat side grub.jpg

 

Note: Smaller jigs can take a smaller gauge wire, but 24g works for this and other applications such as skirted jig & trailers and swimbait hooks.

 

Won't leave home without them installed and they won't " tear up the bait ".

jig box_wire holders.jpg

jigs with wire attached.jpg

 

 

Note the wire trailer holder (arrow) attached with the skirt using a wire tie.

zip tie_skirted jig and trailer holder.jpg

 

Not only can baits be reused after catching over a dozen fish, but the baits stay up on the hook. My idea differs in that the lure holder is attached to each device permanently, ready to use when changing baits.

What a sweet idea!