fishon-son Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 what is the plastic used on the high floater stanley ribbit frog......cant be plastisol...id like to make a few if i new what it was.....the lilly pads are starting to come up..in the north...and this is a very hot bait for me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 I wonder if they just whip in some air, or maybe micro balloons, to make it more buoyant. I know their floaters are lighter than the same size regular Ribbits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bribass Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 im not sure the answer to this but definitely not just air whipped into them they almost don't even feel like plastisol lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 its some type of foam im thinking....boy do they work...i dont think they offer them anymore? i picked up 7 bags in the black/limegreen color and those were clearanced priced ..wish some knew what it was..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bribass Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) I know I get asked all the time when you pause them do your frogs stay afloat like those ribbits ... lol Edited May 21, 2016 by bribass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archery1 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 If using dark colors try grinding up some cork. I have made frogs from this an they float a 5/0 hook .I have a block of cork i got cheap from a place that sells it for people that make sculptures outta it.. I FORGET if it's the low or high density cork though.. 1 is better than other 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptystringer81 Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 I like that cork idea, ill have to try that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Got me curious, so i looked and found this Is this the same frog? Cause it don't float Ive been working on a floating frog for over a month now.. Think i finally got it Durring my struggles, i tried using microballoons... They work, frog floated, but man was it ugly! Problem #1 was the color... I added double the ammount, close enough to live with Problem #2, made the plastic softer, kinda "spongy" even... I could live with that too Problem #3, kinda anticipated this one.. 90% of the mb's floated up to the top of the bait... Made one whole side look foamy like tap beer.... That's when i decided to try something else Not sure about cork, but id assume it would do the same thing.... Air seems to work fine though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATFLATTIE Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 I just have not really been happy with any solid body floating plastic. I did the microspheres thing. Couple different kinds and colors. (white and brown) The closest I came was 1. Cutting a foam earplug to fit inside the mold 2. Hand pour the mold partially full 3. Stick the plug into to stick in place 4. When plastic is still hot, but not flowing close mold and finish injecting. I was able to (just barely) float a 5/0 heavy wire hook. The problem was it truly was a one fish bait. The plastic was so thin around the plug, that it would tear and the ear plug would p0p out on the first fish almost every time. And that just seems like waaaay too much time to spend making a few baits. I was doing a similar thing putting a few BBs in frogs for a couple friends who like to fish the frog like a fluke and it just simply wasn't worth the time to mess with it. Eventually you have to value your time at least a little even if you're like me and your time is useless haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Mine is hollow, using a "carve to fit" insert.. Only had time to shoot 1 so far, it easily floats a 3/0 hook, sure 4/0 would be no problem either.. Ill try a 5/0 just for bragging rights Itll b in the gallery when i get time to shoot more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Eventually you have to value your time at least a little even if you're like me and your time is useless haha! Good point... But, the irony If we were so concerned with time, i think we'd just buy all our lures from Cabelas like every one else On countless occasions ive invested weeks/months of my precious little time off work trying to design and make that new lure no one else has, only to end up with a wall full of failures..... But the handful of times it did work out made it all worth it in the end! Im sure we all have our own reasons for choosing this hobby... To those who do it just because they have time to kill, i envy you! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATFLATTIE Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Yeah I definitely get that. There are things that are too time consuming to bother with "selling" but if I feel like it gives me an advantage I will take however long to make them. I just feel like "Is this worth it" is a question you at least need to ask yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Got me curious, so i looked and found this Is this the same frog? Cause it don't float Ive been working on a floating frog for over a month now.. Think i finally got it Durring my struggles, i tried using microballoons... They work, frog floated, but man was it ugly! Problem #1 was the color... I added double the ammount, close enough to live with Problem #2, made the plastic softer, kinda "spongy" even... I could live with that too Problem #3, kinda anticipated this one.. 90% of the mb's floated up to the top of the bait... Made one whole side look foamy like tap beer.... That's when i decided to try something else Not sure about cork, but id assume it would do the same thing.... Air seems to work fine though THATS THE FROG..BUT NOT THE ONE IM TALKING ABOUT...its a super high floater srff-311 catalpa 5 per bag cant get them anymore not on the web and Stanley said there discountuied I found a few bags at the gander mountain store and bought them out....great bait for me holds and floats a double frog 4/0 hook well......its like foam not plastisol my baits are black and green ..I found they really work well in o-1 ft. of water at sun up...and what a buzzing sound the feet make...the black/green color is the only color I have found them in...nothing else....upc 010851162116. if you can find them on line....I have enough to last a while but just wondered what they made them from........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATFLATTIE Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I know which ones you're talking about and they certainly float and aren't made out of normal plastic or it has a bunch of something else in it. They are stiffer but not a lot harder than the regular ribbit. It's a weird consistency for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archery1 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 If you didnt call stanley direct..call them.. i have ordered discontinued products years ago through them. They have layin around warehouse. Might want to give that a try? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Mine is hollow, using a "carve to fit" insert.. Only had time to shoot 1 so far, it easily floats a 3/0 hook, sure 4/0 would be no problem either.. Ill try a 5/0 just for bragging rights Itll b in the gallery when i get time to shoot more Ok, got er dun! Heres my frogs http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/gallery/image/15863-hollow-frog/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 looks good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainryan Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 https://www.smooth-on.com/products/flexfoam-it-17/ The silicone is pretty rad too but prep that mold well and pay attention to what materials it doesnt play well with like sulfur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Playing with the Alumilite Flexible Foam, 3lb density, myself for similar issues. http://www.makelure.com/store/p/974-Flexible-Foam-3lb-Density.aspx Will report in the spring, but so far it looks promising. But, you will have an opaque product, not a clear or transparent product. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainryan Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 3lb is very soft, may not hold up. Also may expand too much. Less density= more expansion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Early test suggest it will hold up, and the density can be controlled some by "packing" it. Or, in other words, not allowing it to expanding completely in the mold. Stuff seems pretty tough. PS, this stuff is not a ridged foam, it is more like the foam cushions are made from. Edited October 8, 2017 by Anglinarcher added information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
