andy1976 Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Ordered 5 gallons of plastic and 5 quarts of colororant. The fluorescent orange was rock hard. Absolutely unusable. After calling the owner suggested we keep stirring it. Said it can harden up after a week or two of sitting. Refused to exchange or refund the product. Terrible service and I will be not be puchasing from him again. That's terrible because his product is normally great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 5 quarts of colorant ??? wow .. that's a ton ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I've never known the guys at MF to be anything but helpful. I've had colorants (from several brands) hard pack before, but usually if you break it up and mix it it solves the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted June 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Yes braking it up and mixing it took more than an hour with a drill and a makeshift stirrer. Yes ordered a lot of colorant for a new bait. Was getting ready to order two 55 fall n drums buy I'll be looking elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammingjack Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I always like MF plastic. Their colorant not so much. I get that from LW, best I have found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 do it is the way to go....never had a issue there product is always moving so nothing is old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Everyone has their opinion and favorites. I always thought MF was a little high and found a less expensive alternative that I am very happy with. Baitjunkys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Not sure if comparing repackagers with company's that actually make there products is fair. But the guys from MF have been around for a long time and have made there product for a long time. Was the reason you wanted to return the product because it was bad or just you had to mix it? You must have had some experience with there colorant before and should have known it does settle a bit. The flouresents are to worst and need to be mixed every time you use it. I use one of there colors that's settles just put a few wing nuts in the bottle and shack it till they are free. Just the nature of the product. I am thinking if they did not want to take it back it was because it was not defective. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 I tend to agree with Frank on this settling is par for the course, all these materials we deal with will do that you prolly got some that was not a best seller and has been on a shelf longer than most but it will come back with a little effort why should they pay to replace something that is doing what it is known to do and easily reconstituted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Not sure if comparing repackagers with company's that actually make there products is fair. But the guys from MF have been around for a long time and have made there product for a long time. Was the reason you wanted to return the product because it was bad or just you had to mix it? You must have had some experience with there colorant before and should have known it does settle a bit. The flouresents are to worst and need to be mixed every time you use it. I use one of there colors that's settles just put a few wing nuts in the bottle and shack it till they are free. Just the nature of the product. I am thinking if they did not want to take it back it was because it was not defective. This was settled rock hard and pretty much gone. Been purchasing from them for forever. No doubt there plastic is the best but this was unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 I tend to agree with Frank on this settling is par for the course, all these materials we deal with will do that you prolly got some that was not a best seller and has been on a shelf longer than most but it will come back with a little effort why should they pay to replace something that is doing what it is known to do and easily reconstituted? Yes I would agree normally but an hour to reconstitute with a drill with modified coat hanger wire is crazy. Plus the lurecraft that was ten years old I had to use was barely settled. Im looking to get a few drums for a new bait just to start but that's terrible not offer any solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 I hear ya maybe he could of handled it better who knows, but just an FYI I got this cheap little mixer off of amazon if you notice it has several attachments but the one that stands out and works like a charm is the one with teeth it breaks up any solids pretty quickly. Works great for Airbrush paint as well. But note that was with 2-4oz bottles have not tried any bigger yet. http://wholesale.norpro.com/index.php/cordless-mini-mixer.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhorse Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I'm doing my own pigments in Mexico, for this situation you can use a baking hand mixer, add some worm oil or softener to the hard rock pigment and mix for a long time. After mix store your pigment in wide containers, butter containers work fine. Next time it will be easier to mix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted June 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I'm doing my own pigments in Mexico, for this situation you can use a baking hand mixer, add some worm oil or softener to the hard rock pigment and mix for a long time. After mix store your pigment in wide containers, butter containers work fine. Next time it will be easier to mix. Thanks for the tip. I don't think I should end up having to do that when I purchased new product tnough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 After reading this I went out and checked the pint of flor orange I have and it to is settled on the bottom. Mixing it is not so easy with such a small opening. If it were me I would cut it open and put I a container with a bigger opening as mentioned before. Other brands don't settle that much but all the flor colors do. Beware of the thick one too they are hard to mix just because they are thick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 If you like the color, you'll find a way to make it work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff@mf Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Jeff here at M-F, I talked to the boss man last week about this subject and it has nothing to do with the plastic, it was the flo orange and you didn't ask for a refund that we recall. I remember discussing this in a meeting but he did say not to trade it because it settles out immediately. All the flo colors except number 55 do or our 4 colors and didn't see a problem with 55. I will give you a refund no questions asked tomorrow. Expect to see a credit in your account in a few days, sorry for your frustration as the guys above said like this colors a beast, I believe there's a shirt that says something of that effect. K thanks@MF, Jeff Edited June 8, 2016 by jeff@mf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbucks Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Very misleading title! M & F is a great company with some of the best products on the market! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 IMO MF has always been great people and more than willing to go out of their way to please the customer. Once again, it looks like Jeff has done just that. Therefore, I see no reason for this thread to continue. In the future, I would recommend private resolutions before publicly slandering any company on a public board. Thank you all for understanding. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
