rufthumbs Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Was curious if anybody would share a source for 1/16" thick 1"X1" square lips....I'm aware of LPO but for a 100 lips it comes out to about .49 a lip which seems high to me..I've bought some from hagens before which were somewhat cheaper in price but the size wasn't quite right... I have tried making my own but have not been satisfied with how inconsistent I am with making them by hand...if I had any sort of descent metal working skills I would try to build a punch of some kind.. I'd love to find a lip punch or someone who can make a consistent lip that might consider selling some cheaper than LPO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Try the circuit board 12"X 12" sheets from LPO. At $8.99, that works out to $.06+ a square inch, and it's easy to cut and shape. You can cut it with Wiss snips or strong scissors, so you don't need machinery, and you can sand it to your final shape. I put blue painters tape on part of the full sheet at one edge, trace out the lip shape I want including a center line, and then just cut to the line. Edited July 25, 2016 by mark poulson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Yes, once you have cut a few lips you won't go back to buying store-bought. It only takes a few minutes to do and it's ridiculousy cheap. And you can design and cut any size/shape you need. One 12x12" sheet of lip material lasts a long time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 I think Barbara Hershey got her lips from LPO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 I think Barbara Hershey got her lips from LPO. Right next to Mick Jagger's! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 For consistency when cutting your own lips try the template print and glue method. Cut them a little big. Then clamp and / or glue a bunch together and sand them to final shape on a disc sander or belt sander. This should yield much higher consistency. If you do not have a disc sander, buy a 7" metal cutting blade that fits your Table saw and a 7" resin fiber sanding disc 50 - 80 grit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufthumbs Posted July 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Thanks for all the input & suggestions fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 bandsaws . put tape on lips. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 I believe you can get more by cutting them yourself. If you still want to buy them go with the business mentioned above. If you want to do them yourself, this is what I do. I make a lip design and lay out the design with a center line. Since I do this by hand, I then scan it to the computer. I check the printing size and if correct I "snapshot" the shape and put one after another on a page. Then I run a sheet off. I cut out the amount that I want. Then I attach the cut out to the film of the lexan with a low adhesive spray (Ben gave me this one). I let then dry, once dry I take them (sheet form) to the band saw, table saw or scrolling saw. I mainly use the table saw for large cutting. The straight side cuts I use the band saw, for radius cuts I use the scrolling saw. This is just my way, you can use whatever works for you. Heck you could use a coping saw. Then I use a file, sand paper, Dremel, etc. to touch the lip up in a hobby vice. I usually make more then I need, I put the rest in a storage location. I leave the paper and film on the lexan until the very end of the process. I peel the paper and film as I need. The center line is extremely important. That will square the lip with the baits center line. It's not bad at all in time. I just gave you a little detail. Hope this helps, Dale 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RayburnGuy Posted July 30, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 I use Power Draw (thanks for telling me about it BobP) to draw my lips and then print them out. There are probably other free software drawing programs available for download as well. I had never used any kind of drawing software before and it was simple enough to figure out how to use the software to draw lip shapes. It's a free download that will draw and print your lip shapes in a 1 to 1 ratio. This means that whatever size you draw the lip that's the size it will be when you print it. Once printed out the templates can then be affixed to your lip material with spray adhesive. Then it's just a matter of cutting them out by whatever means are suitable to you. One good thing about doing your lips this way is that the file that is created when you draw your lip shape can then be stored on your computer for future use and they will be an exact copy each and every time. Ben 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) Whoa there Buckaroo (Ben)! Don't try to get me to far into the 20th....I mean the 21st century yet. I have been doing hand as-builts in the field so long it's just second nature/habit until lately. I can do some very good drawings I have you to know. However if you and BobP says it's the way to go well,.... I have got to give it a try. My problem is I need to find one for a Mac. I don't think Power Draw will work. I would like to do designs for bodies also. I'll take a look and find me one. If anybody knows of one let me know please. Thanks again, Dale Edited July 30, 2016 by DaleSW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Started doing fabrication the summer when I turned 14 years old Dale and made a living at it until retirement so I know a little something about layout work as well. Trust me when I say there is no way you can achieve the EXACT same layout time after time doing them by hand. Even building a hard template and tracing around it by hand does not equal the same accuracy offered by creating a CAD drawing and printing them out. Is that degree of accuracy necessary to build a bait? Not really, but when you get my age and the eyes start to go you'll know what I mean. At one time I could do layout work in 1/64 of an inch. Now on a good day I can see an 1/8 of an inch. Can't help you with the Mac, but surely somewhere there is software that is applicable. I'm a little like Mark when it comes to a lot of this computer stuff, but if I can figure it out then it's not that hard. And if I don't drag you kicking and screaming into the 21'st century then who else is gonna do it? Ben 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 its hard for me to buy a computer when we have phones and tablets that do the same things..... but they dont print so i use the 19th century template (ha ha).... using graph paper i draw half the lip, using the graph line as a center line, then fold in half and cut out... this template is glued to card stock for a permanent template, or directly to the lexan for temporary testing lips.... use cheap Elmers glue sticks, the paper will easily wash of the lexan with water if you have a computer, Ben and Dales way is surely more accurate... but ive had success this way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) I really believe the computer is the better way JR. You cut out a few things that I have to do. I was just having fun with Ben. I am always interested in a new way of doing things. I knew that Ben has worked in the same industry that I work in. I do draw everything by hand though. I couldn't help myself Ben. Dale ps, JR if that works for you, then it's perfect. Edited July 31, 2016 by DaleSW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 I couldn't help myself Ben. Dale Oh I know. It's in ya and it's got to come out. You wouldn't be normal if it didn't. Oh wait..........your building baits so your not normal. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 True Ben...very true! HaHaHa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 My computer prints ok, but there is something wrong with the spell check. Hope you guys can help. How do you get the white out off the screen without scratching it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 I use a rubber hammer, and a really sharp chisel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 That should work Mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 shocking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal cranker Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Contact a local plastics company. They usually keep a scrap bin and sell by weight or use themselves when needed. I have paid next to nothing for large sheets and even been given some for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
