spoonpluggergino Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) First I want to thank to Woodie, that Transtar is amazing, here are some follow ups on my clear coat projects Sprayed following baits with Harbor Freight airbrush, using following clear coats Envirotex, Devcon two ton and Acme A1 finish, all satisfactory, best one Devcon two ton 30 min Than yesterday I used Transtar True Finish, I got just about the same result that that I had with the above finish. The airbrush seemed to work fine, but was not getting enough of the clear coat medium, were the bait would look wet. I watched a video on u tube how to apply a clear coat to a car and I could see the wet look I should be getting, I went back to work I had a Paasche that I purchased when I first started painting but never used it, I fired that baby up, set up the pressure at 35 psi as per Woodie and I was able to adjust the nozzle on this brush and get all the fluid I wanted, the baits came out amazing The problem was not using the right brush. The Paache model that i used is H0611 single stage I also cleaned the brush as was stated by Bob Nite to take the brush apart and clean it thoroughly, and that is the only way to do it properly, this particular brush super easy to take apart, one little screw and the nozzle comes right out The mix ratio On the Envirotex I use denatured alcohol I add drops until the screwdriver will not hold drops of fluid, works for me Transtar I use a 4 to 1 ratio straight no reducer 3 coats with 10 minutes flash time between coats Now I want to try Bob's Nite S81, I finally came up with a way to tap the can with a valve, making it easy to dispense the liquid, posted a tutorial Woodieb8 you made my day Gino Edited August 10, 2016 by spoonpluggergino 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Hey Gino how is cleaning go with your AB? I think I read your using a harbor freight unit, I have only high end Iwata's and I'm kinda gun shy about putting epoxy in them, do find clean-up relatively easy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonpluggergino Posted August 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 I was able to clean the harbor freight airbrush, but you have to take the brush apart and it's a little bit of work. Anyway the Harbor Freigt airbrush does not put out enough fluid. I used the Paasche H0611 single action and that is the perfect brush to use with epoxy paint, plus it is super easy to take apart and clean. I have 4 HB and they are great brushes, but i would not use them for this application, plus their nozzle are not large enough for this applicatio, In my opinion the single action brush are better for epoxy. I am sure there are other brushes that would handle epoxy clear but I am not aware of . The Paasche you can adjust the nozzle opening Gino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 glad it worked out . finishes are amazing. we use paache H brush with nu.5 tip. on a run of baits we use baby food jars instead of the 3 oz paasche jars. just use the hardware from a paashe bottle. get Teflon sipon tube. then your good to go for a few dozen . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 I went with a mid range Badger with a .35. It works fine. What I wonder is over the long term how long will the brush work. I was told/taught that hard cleaning hurts the brush. Keeping this type of cleaning to an minimum. I just started spraying I can't say one way or another. Ben has been spraying for years. He can answer a lot of these questions. Dale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonpluggergino Posted August 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 The Paasche H model that I use there is no o rings on the nozzle and the nozzle adjusting sleeve so it is safe to soak in acetone. I had to replace all the o rings on one of my Iwata HP due to I soaked in acetone, but I have herd that the new brushes the o rings are resistant to acetone, but I still will not take a chance Gino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonpluggergino Posted August 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 My apology to Dick Nite, In my post I give Dick a different name, called Him Bob Nite Gino 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I'm not talking about replacement of parts Gino. I'm talking about wearing them out completely. This is no more then curiosity and to know the life span of a brush being cleaned like this. I was wondering if anyone has gone through a life span of a brush and would know this answer under these conditions. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 hi. we never have retired airbrush. we just rebuild them. we wash tips and parts in lacquer thinner. I soak tips in a small bottle of thinners. tips will wear. if your shooting mettalics,such as fine sparkle,its abrasive,that will wear openings... when spraying and change of color we keep a small bottle with thinner that we spray thru till clear then shoot the next color...I do know this heat/humidity is playing havoc this summer.. if theres anything I can apply to help folks out feel free/ theres many very qualifies artisans on this site. that's why its sooo cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 If your a hobby builder Dale I doubt you'll ever wear out an airbrush. Like Woodie said he has never retired an airbrush, but does rebuild them. And he paints a LOT of baits. Unless there's an operator error on your part (bent needle/nozzle, etc.) your highly unlikely to wear something out. Another way parts have to be replaced is doing something stupid like dropping a $30 nozzle for an Iwata Hi-Line in the trashcan. Don't ask me how I know. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) It wasn't the top of the line brush, it just didn't allow the tip to be put back in after time. It's good to know that I won't have to buy another brush for spraying clear coat, this was my concern. ps, Ben next time nudge me before I do that again. I didn't know Woodie was at that level. geeezzz Thanks, Dale Edited August 11, 2016 by DaleSW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 It wasn't the top of the line brush, it just didn't allow the tip to be put back in after time. It's good to know that I won't have to buy another brush for spraying clear coat, this was my concern. Thanks, Dale If your spraying clear coat just remember to thoroughly clean your airbrush as soon as your done spraying. I disassemble mine completely and clean it in acetone after spraying DN through it and so far have not experienced a single problem. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Will do Ben. I just found a little intel about Woodie. Yep that was differently my bad. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 yes dale I'm sorta crazy .lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 yes dale I'm sorta crazy .lol. Aren't we all? Ben 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 No Woodie, just a prolific bait maker. Very nice pics of some Musky's by the way. A friend is heading that way in a few weeks to try to find some, and no he has some baits. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 tell your friend to fish the south shore,canadien side. ruscom river to stony point 15-17ft. find the bait the toothy critter are there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 tell your friend to fish the south shore,canadien side. ruscom river to stony point 15-17ft. find the bait the toothy critter are there. Kudos to you Woodie. Not many folks would share specific information about where to catch fish. Nice job man. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 a guy spends his hard earned cash. hopefully he has a great experience here. musky guys just want a big tug,a picture and let them go... I tell the young folks . go enjoy the lakes,its the last place you can go,enjoy.its free.,except the thousands ya spent on gear..trying to pass things on ensures a future for others.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Aren't we all? Ben Not me. My welding customers use to ask me if I was a certified welder. I would tell them that I was not certified, but I am definitely certifiable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Not me. My welding customers use to ask me if I was a certified welder. I would tell them that I was not certified, but I am definitely certifiable. One of my pet peeves when welding was when people would ask me if a repair I'd made on a piece of their equipment was going to hold. I'd look them straight in the eye and tell them "it broke when it was new didn't it". That usually shut them up. Ben 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) I don't ask that, I just get the weld tested. Ben knows what I mean. Dale Edited August 22, 2016 by DaleSW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonpluggergino Posted August 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Hey Woodie, I am a muskie fanatic, that is one reason I started making my own baits. I changed the tip and nozzle on my HP Paache to .5 works even better, I really like that Transpar urethane auto clear, thanks for the tip. Good advice on SC, I have been there, should spend more time, for now is LOTW and Eagle Lake, I will be at SC November and December weather permitting Gino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 One of my pet peeves when welding was when people would ask me if a repair I'd made on a piece of their equipment was going to hold. I'd look them straight in the eye and tell them "it broke when it was new didn't it". That usually shut them up. Ben Then tell them the reason it broke in the first place was because of the nut holding the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
