Job Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Hello everybody!I really hope you can help me out, since there is not much expertise on this topic on the other side of the Antlantic ocean.I am having a really hard time trying to completely fill up all the ribs of the 631 and 643 basstackle ribbed swimbait. Not a single one is perfect without any dents and voids in the ribs.I tried harder plastic, lower temperatures, warming up my molds and different injectors.It is driving me crazy!!What am I doing wrong here??I would really like to hear your thoughts on this one or a hint to a topic on a similar problem. Edited September 20, 2016 by Job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATFLATTIE Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I'm in the same boat with stick baits. Don't think I have ever shot a stick bait mold and got more than 50% of the baits to not dent. It is more than frustrating! I feel your pain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Once again .....This is the correct way. I'm not saying there are not other ways. Suck up plastic (dont pour it in injector) Burp injector to get air out. Inject slow (five count). Hold firm pressure 10-15 secs. Top off immediately. Re top off as soon as sprue goes down slightly. Top off again as needed. If you get dents or voids the mold design is faulty. Edited September 20, 2016 by MonteSS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Job Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I will try every step you suggest Monte (did almost everything). How do you properly burp the injector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Made this a while ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Hello everybody! I really hope you can help me out, since there is not much expertise on this topic on the other side of the Antlantic ocean. I am having a really hard time trying to completely fill up all the ribs of the 631 and 643 basstackle ribbed swimbait. Not a single one is perfect without any dents and voids in the ribs. I tried harder plastic, lower temperatures, warming up my molds and different injectors. It is driving me crazy!! What am I doing wrong here?? I would really like to hear your thoughts on this one or a hint to a topic on a similar problem. I'm not seeing any dents in your bait. there are voids in the rings though. Dents and the voids you see are unrelated. I have always found that injecting slower will help them fill out better. You want the cavities to fill slow. Edited September 20, 2016 by DaveMc1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelhains Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I have the same molds and have experienced the same issues. When injecting play with the speed you inject the plastic. Also, Holding pressure is the the best way to combat incomplete pours. Denting happens when your plastic is too hot. I found Baitjunkies plastic shoot the best in these particular molds. Hope this helps! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 What I see from the picture looks like you have bubbles in your hot plastic. Many topics to be found on this board about that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 What I see from the picture looks like you have bubbles in your hot plastic. Many topics to be found on this board about that issue. it's easy to confuse that with this but it's caused from filling the cavity too fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I see many on You Tube really injecting fast. This may work on some molds, but I inject a nice slow steady pace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Job Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Thanks guys!I will try a slow and steady injection of the mold on my next attempt. It is good to hear that some of you had the same problems with filling the rings, and that it can be fixed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Job Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Made this a while ago. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbaits Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Just want to comment on this post,I have purchased a lot of molds from mold manufacturer,some commercial molds and some private custom molds,ANlmost every mold I have purchased took some trial and error in pouring a complete perfect bait,mold making is not an exact science,that being said a mold maker is not a lure maker,we are 2 different animals,mold makers in all due respect do not come close to pouring the number of baits that the lure maker pours,And that being said not sure even if the mold maker could pour some of his or hers creation without defects,all the molds Ive purchased needed to be tweaked one way or the other,the mold maker does not have a clue how to make them work for your plastic,heating device etc,Hope this came acrossed the right way,do not want to offend anyone,every mold is different and there are so many variables with plastic and heating devices,SO I THINK WHAT IM SAYINGB IS ITS UP TO YOU LURE MAKERS TO MAKE THEM WORK,POUR POUR AND POUR SOME MORE,THATS THE WAY I LEARNED T GET THEM RIGHT!!!lol Edited September 21, 2016 by Bogbaits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I am just a hobby pourer, but I have found spraying my molds with PAM helps them fill completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Job Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I had some baits with complete rings for the first time! The success rate is something of about 50% now. We are moving in the right direction... I also noticed a difference in success with different colours.. Some pour very nice and some are terrible.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Made this a while ago. You make it look so simple and easy. I'm going to try burping tomorrow, to see if I can cut down on the plug in my injector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 You make it look so simple and easy. I'm going to try burping tomorrow, to see if I can cut down on the plug in my injector.The longer you fuss with trying to burp your injector the larger the plug will be. Just suck it up and shoot. That air will be at the top and not bother you at all. On the bubbles I have noticed that colors with white in them do that worse. I have much better luck when I make that color with hot pink and white pearl. White pigment is a ground up rock and does not flow well. The only reason I can think of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodell1979 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I agree not all mold manufactures worry with how their molds shoot and it is more about how many they can get out production wise. I will not point any fingers any direction but being able to go and meet the manufactures in person and see 1st hand the pride they take in what they make helps a lot. I've had a denting problem on one of my molds only to try the same mold from a different manufacture and get better results. These molds are an expensive investment and you want them to perform like they are designed to perform. In my opinion this bait isn't vented properly or temps are too hot. call up the manufacture and see if they will stand behind their product, if not find someone who will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 You have to remember not all skill levels are the same. That being said not all mold maker have the skill to make a mold like that. If this was easy to do there would be many more doing it. As of now there are a lot of guys trying it and most have found out that it's not so easy. So venting a mold right is great but having a good looking bait is much more desirable. On that bait I have more than 100 cavitys of many sizes and it is a plastic flow thing that is happening. If you use a plastic that is thicker when at temp it will do that. Using one that flows better gives better results. Finding the one that works the best is up to the user. The ribs are real thin and everyone has a vent. Like I said before that color is a pain and want to do that even with easy molds. Most of us here know that not all molds shoot the same and need some figuring out to get good results. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Frank, when I have a problem with a mold I need someone else to blame. It just can't be me! Hahaha Most things in life require trial and error to learn. Most of us learn more from our errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Its not about skill level, Its more about the design,Anything deep ribbed is gonna take a sweet touch to get it to hand shoot. I have guys ask all the time about D bombs, I just refuse to do them as number one, no one wants to pay the cost, number two they will never hand shoot well regardless how good the mold maker is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
