Chuck Young Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I have been looking for a fluorescent white paint. Createx is what I usually use. Any recommendations or links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) If you Google it, you'll get several links including Amazon.com sources. There is a difference between fluorescent and glow in the dark paint. Fluorescent paint only glows when exposed to black light.. I don't know if the "fluorescent" Createx colors actually do that or whether their use of the term is just meant to mean "bright" for marketing purposes. The probably do since the paint is used for t-shirt painting. Maybe if you're night fishing with a black light you could see it, but the bass can't. Glow in the dark paint stores light energy and releases it over a period of time, and it can be seen by fish. When I want a bright reflective white, I use White Pearl acrylic from Van Dyke's Nature's Gallery. I paint jigging spoons with glow in the dark paint but the best of this type paint can't be sprayed because the glow grains are too large. Edited September 21, 2016 by BobP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 You may have to make your own using fluorescent particles in clear media applied over white, this would fluoresce blueish/violet. Fluorescent paint doesn't glow , it reflects light differently and appears to glow. It is most noticeable when exposed to u.v rays. Fluo colours often appear brightest in evening because of high u.v levels. In darkness with no u.v ,fluorescents won't fluoresce.You can check how strong your fluorescence is with a 'black light' bulb , I've used one for years when dying materials for fly tying, mine is a small pen like torch available cheaply. Worth getting one just to see you're fly or lure boxes light up in darkness when exposed to it if you use fluo a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Thank you both for your response. I can assure you that Createx fluorescent paints truly do light up under the black light. I believe all glow paint also does the same thing. In one sense it is a k2bw1s solution. But glow is going to add a green tinge to a paint job. I have googled both glow and fluorescent white. Wicked auto air is one possibility. I want to avoid solvent based paints if I can. Size of particles is definitely a factor. That is why I want to tap into the vast experience on this site. Edited September 21, 2016 by Chuck Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 What I should have said is fluorescent does indeed glo, but only when it is being activated by u.v, whereas phosphorescent will continue to glo in darkness if charged with light.fluo white does tend to fluoresce blue/violet.When I think about it we use fluo white a lot in fly-tying for that eye popping white, but dont hear much used for hard lures.White being a major trigger colour in lots of lures, it does make sense to try fluo white. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I get glo in the dark by adding Glonation powder to clear nail polish. It has to be stirred every time I use it, because the glo particles settle out and pack at the bottom, but it works. https://www.glonation.com/index.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Glow paint glows because of strontium aluminate particles. The larger the particles, the better the glow. Like Mark, I use a GloNation product, but got the acrylic paint pre-mixed. The white paint glows with a greenish color. But its particles are much too large to pass through an airbrush. You can buy glow paint that an airbrush can handle but it's a catch 22: the much smaller particles will not glow as much. Mark's solution of adding glow powder to the topcoat is a neat solution since most of us brush our topcoats anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Glow paint glows because of strontium aluminate particles. The larger the particles, the better the glow. Like Mark, I use a GloNation product, but got the acrylic paint pre-mixed. The white paint glows with a greenish color. But its particles are much too large to pass through an airbrush. You can buy glow paint that an airbrush can handle but it's a catch 22: the much smaller particles will not glow as much. Mark's solution of adding glow powder to the topcoat is a neat solution since most of us brush our topcoats anyway. I have a ton of glo paint powder, Bob, and it's all your fault! Hahaha It is somewhat disconcerting when I go into the garage at night, and there are still-glowing paints on the work bench. I actually put some on the wood tire stops in my garage, and it makes backing in sooo much easier for someone like me who is visually challenged. I also put it on the numerals on my mail box, because we don't have street lights where I live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Didnt realise you wanted glow in the dark paint chuck, but incidentally I have actually fished in the river strontian , at strontian village where strontium was discovered, in daylight and darkness and caught .......very little !...... did not try glow in the dark flies or lures for the sea trout there though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 At this point I am not looking for glow in dark paint - maybe later for ice fishing jigs. Sounds like glonation is the way to go. Thanks for that. I am looking for airbrush acrylic fluorescent white to incorporate into my paint patterns. If it available in auto airbrush, the particles must be small enough to pass through an airbrush. It is possible. Is it available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I found 2 products that will meet my needs! Wicked uv glow base, and Wicked uv white. They are not available through my usual art suppliers. Here is a link if anyone is interested. http://www.chicagoairbrushsupply.com/crwiuvglwhw2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Standard fluo acrylic airbrush paints go through airbrush, the problem I see is if the white is opaque, u.v can only effect fluo particles on surface, would that be enough? not so sure. Still think clear fluo solution over white might be only possibility. Interested to hear how you get on though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Chuck sent that previous to your last post.are these not phosphorescent as opposed to fluorescent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Looked again at u.v. wicked chuck, I suspect this would do the trick, but to appear super white would have to be on top of solid bright white . Which may mean if you want certain details or bars etc.to pop ,they would need to be done in bright opaque white 1st. Hope you get desired result , let us know how it goes, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 The Wicked glow base says it can be mixed with any color to make it uv reactive. Although the manufacturer has said not to mix Wicked and Createx airbrush colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 You wouldn't be mixing colours but mixing wicked glo base to colors , seems thats o.k., regarding the wicked glo, you do have to use thin coats over a solid white to get a bright looking white if that's what's desired. The glo base,according to createx ,gives a stronger u.v effect. I'm more interested in getting a bright fluo like white, whilst you might be after maximum u.v effect chuck, will be experimenting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyectcher Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Chuck if your useing createx get some of the fabric whitener you use for washing cloths put a few drops in and spray your lure or a test panel then go into a dark room with a black light or charge it with a flashlight it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted October 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 My goal with this is to have a true white fluorescent foundation for patterns like the purple tiger ( flo purple top and stripes on flo white base). But I'm with Gliders - the Flo base calls for some experimenting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...