lurebaz Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Hi, I am looking to purchase a couple of presto pots for increasing my productivity, i have a few questions if that is ok? How important is it to get a stiring system. Is there a way to hold a double injector, one injector in each pot. Where is the best place to buy Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Never really did like the presto pots. I always found them to be quite hard on the plastic. If you are looking at shooting a lot of 1 and 2 colour baits take a look at one of these. Yes they are expensive but they are built for plastic using insulated pots. You can draw plastic directly from each pot for single colour baits or you can draw from the 2 colour manifold for 2 colour laminates. The absolute best part is there is NO blending block to fumble with, shoot laminates just like you would shoot a solid colour. They have the Mini with a pair of 2 quart pots for smaller operations or the regular one with a pair of 2.5 gallon pots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.olds Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I don't see a link. Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowFISH Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) I think if you are going to be dealing with enough plastic that you need to maintain heat to shoot over time a stirring system is pretty important. +1 - I'd say if you just plan on doing dark baits (ex. black / green pumkin) you can probably live with hand stirring a presto if you had too.... I did for awhile - but was using a micro for light colors and the presot for a big batch of darker colors. If you have any intention of doing lighter colors, transparents or clears with the presto.... you have to have the heat dialed and consistent.... as it only takes a 30 seconds for a presto to heat a portion of your clear too far and then have it turn it yellow. You can make a stirring system pretty easily... I did - but it's still not cheap - a decent 120V 50RPM gearmotor is $35-50 on EBAY used.... then add cost for materials to make a paddle, plate to hold it above the presto, the enclosure, etc.... sometimes things are just easier to buy and save the headaches.... I usually realize that after the fact. J. Edited September 21, 2016 by SlowFISH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Sorry, here is the link. http://ultramolds.com/product-category/injection-systems/shooting-star-system/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahn427 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Where are you located? England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurebaz Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Thank you for all the help. Yes, i am UK based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurebaz Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) I have attached a copy of the mold i designed, I am getting ok results but because it is such a large mold 10" and uses a lot of plastisol using a microwave is not really viable. Also i must be stiring a lot of air into the mix,because of the mold orientation this air ends up in the head sometimes which results in a hollow head. Edited September 22, 2016 by lurebaz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predators Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) To control Temperature for Plastisol the best thing to do is get a PID Temperature Controller. One can control the temperature see examples of units in links. One needs to know what voltage, amps and temperature range their working with. Some of the suppliers we all buy our Plastisol supplies from that are making injection equipment or heating pots use PID controllers. Some PID's come as kits some you buy SSR and Temp probe separate. MYPIN TA4 and Auberins are popular to use. http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3 https://www.amazon.com/TA4-SNR-Thermocouple-Digital-Temperature-Controller/dp/B0195V53X8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474559503&sr=8-1&keywords=mypin+ta4++%22ssr%22 http://www.ebay.com/itm/mypin-digital-f-c-pid-temperature-controller-ta4-snr-k-thermocouple-40a-ssr-/301365612354 Edited September 22, 2016 by jim_44125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 you need to keep adding plastic to the injection port as it cools. you will see it suck down after filling and if you leave it it will cause a hollow spot in the nose of the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipt Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 in the time it takes to heat up plastic in a presto pot, you can shoot just as many or more baits using small batches in the microwave. just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 With a stirrer, you can heat a gallon start to finish in 40 minutes or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurebaz Posted September 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Thank for all the replies. Can anyone suggest a supplier of the pots complete with stirers. My budget is not great enough to get a shooting star type system just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallie Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Has anyone tried a Stirio automatic pot stirrer? Amazon has it for 30 dollars with free shipping. And Lurebaz - lucky for you, they are available on the Amazon UK site. It uses rechargeable batteries so its run time may be limited. It may be possible to rig a DC voltage source to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhorse Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I would like to try this one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I found this review of the Stirio. It sounds like it would have trouble stirring plastisol that hasn't kicked off. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2015/04/stirio-hands-free-stirrer-mixes-it-up-in-the-kitchen/index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Someone here tried the Robo Stir a while back, and said it doesn't have enough power to stir plastisol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurebaz Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 It seems like the bears baits one is my best option but he seems to be shut at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...