walleye warrior Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 when I am melting lead i use a 3m respirator with replaceable cartridges/ filters designed for lead filtration. Does anyone use this type when working with plastisol? if so what cartridge/ filter do you use? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POV_Fishin Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 3M N95 is going to cover your bases pretty well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammingjack Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 I would try to find a N100. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 You want a combination organic vapor/acid vapor and particulate replacement cartridges. http://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/All-3M-Products/Personal-Protective-Equipment/Reusable-Respirators/Safety/Worker-Health-Safety/?N=5002385+8709322+8711017+8711405+8720539+8720550+3294857497&rt=r3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Is there a filter for super glue fumes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 N95 is fine. If it will keep you from contracting TB it will keep you safe from lead fumes. Of course, this is assuming your respirator fits you correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_White Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 You want a combination organic vapor/acid vapor and particulate replacement cartridges. http://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/All-3M-Products/Personal-Protective-Equipment/Reusable-Respirators/Safety/Worker-Health-Safety/?N=5002385+8709322+8711017+8711405+8720539+8720550+3294857497&rt=r3 Travis, I had a look at the link you provided, great info but a lot of choices, I'd like to hear exactly what filter choices people are making for both lead and plastic, I much prefer ventilation to respirators, but when it's cold in my garage it's hard to maintain heat and ventilation at the same time, basically I cut back on the ventilation so a proper respirator would be a big help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) I use the 3M half face respirator, the 6000 series, with the 6001 filters. Keep it in a resealable plastic bag, like a big freezer baggie, when you're not using it, because the charcoal filter will continue to suck fumes out of the air while it's just sitting around. http://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Medium-Quick-Latch-Half-Face-Piece-Respirator-6502QLHA1-C2/205227208 http://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Organic-Vapor-Replacement-Respirator-Cartridges-6001PB1-1/206093695?MERCH=REC-_-rv_nav_plp_rr-_-NA-_-206093695-_-N Edited October 9, 2016 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_White Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Thanks Mark, I have a respirator, need to pickup some cartridges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleye warrior Posted October 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Travis, I had a look at the link you provided, great info but a lot of choices, I'd like to hear exactly what filter choices people are making for both lead and plastic, I much prefer ventilation to respirators, but when it's cold in my garage it's hard to maintain heat and ventilation at the same time, basically I cut back on the ventilation so a proper respirator would be a big help. I have sent the same question via email to both Baitjunkys and Basstackle , asking what respirator they recomend for their plastisols. At this point I have not recieved a reply from either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 When did you send it? I have not seen the question asked? You want a Organic vapor respirator. A N95, N100 Is a dust mask, "Particulates" you may as well put cotton balls in your mouth. A 3M 6006 will cover most gases, You got to block vapors, not dust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POV_Fishin Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 When did you send it? I have not seen the question asked? You want a Organic vapor respirator. A N95, N100 Is a dust mask, "Particulates" you may as well put cotton balls in your mouth. A 3M 6006 will cover most gases, You got to block vapors, not dust. Recommending a full or half face respirator to someone who hasn't been fitted for one is worse than the n95. If you're going to buy a half or full face you need to know a couple of things. No facial hair is highly recommended. Get fitted by someone certified if at all possible. If you don't do either of these you're going to be breathing in more than you would with a simple mask and likely do more damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Do you think those rules don't apply to a standard dust mask? A simple N95 Mask does absolutely nothing to stop chlorine gas. Do you know what your trying to stop from breathing in? If so please add that to your recommendation of the dust mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POV_Fishin Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 I apologize if that sounds snooty or aggressive. I just re read it and realized that my tone wasn't conveyed very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Recommending a full or half face respirator to someone who hasn't been fitted for one is worse than the n95. If you're going to buy a half or full face you need to know a couple of things. No facial hair is highly recommended. Get fitted by someone certified if at all possible. If you don't do either of these you're going to be breathing in more than you would with a simple mask and likely do more damage. Ensuring that the mask is fitted and working properly is the sole responsibility of the person buying it and using it, not the person suggesting it. You recommended a particulate respirator to filter vapours. As posted, you will want an organic vapour cartridge, such as the 3M 6006 cartridge, which would be sufficient most likely for lead as well Edited October 11, 2016 by DaveMc1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POV_Fishin Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Actually as a composite repair technician I do understand what the chemicals are. But I'm not going to go into great detail about my knowledge of plastics. I recommended the n95 because with good ventilation the only real threat you have with plastisol is going to be the fine flake and other materials added along with the risk of spatter. A half mask is highly recommended, but unless you're fitted means nothing. The n95 is a self fitting mask and doesn't require any certification. In my line of work these masks are considered sufficient when in a well ventilated area with PVC based plastics. But that's here nor there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 As a supplier, I do not recomend a particulate filter, I will bet the farm osha does not either. Just saying. You got my recomendation. That is the best I can provide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POV_Fishin Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Actually OSHA doesn't worry much about plastisol so long as you're in a ventilated area. I'd be happy to provide an MSDS that specifically says that if you'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polysol LLC Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 When did you send it? I have not seen the question asked? You want a Organic vapor respirator. A N95, N100 Is a dust mask, "Particulates" you may as well put cotton balls in your mouth. A 3M 6006 will cover most gases, You got to block vapors, not dust. As a manufacturer of plastisol's all of our employees where a N95 mask when throwing batches but keep in mind this is a totally different process than heating / curing plastisol. I have also worked for a manufacturer that processed a large amount of hot dip plastisol's and the operators were not required to wear any respirators just safety goggles. This company was also in an industrial setting with good exhaust systems. Although the SDS on the majority of plastisol's do not require a mask I would highly recommend a Paint type respirator if you have a poor ventilated area or a sensitivity to the smell. If you accidentally burn the plastisol please evacuate the area immediately until cleared. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleye warrior Posted October 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Thank you for all the great feedback everyone. I believe you have given me the info I was looking for. Great site with great members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Plastisol releases Dioxins when heated. I am not gonna recomend a particulate filter for the home guy cooking this stuff in his Microwave. If other big business wants to that is up to them. I can not really believe a major manufacturer, would suggest what they did at another place is acceptable. Pov I really dont care what your msds says, I know what mine says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Actually as a composite repair technician I do understand what the chemicals are. But I'm not going to go into great detail about my knowledge of plastics. I recommended the n95 because with good ventilation the only real threat you have with plastisol is going to be the fine flake and other materials added along with the risk of spatter. A half mask is highly recommended, but unless you're fitted means nothing. The n95 is a self fitting mask and doesn't require any certification. In my line of work these masks are considered sufficient when in a well ventilated area with PVC based plastics. But that's here nor there. As a composite repair technician what is the required filter for Chlorine Dioxide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POV_Fishin Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 As a composite repair technician what is the required filter for Chlorine Dioxide? As a composite repair technician I know that isn't released unless you burn plastisol. But I'm not going to sit here and argue with you or anyone else. That's not why I'm here. I have bigger things to concern myself with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 You only make smoke when your burning something off "outgassing". Whole lot different then cutting a pvc pipe with a saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 As a composite repair technician I know that isn't released unless you burn plastisol. But I'm not going to sit here and argue with you or anyone else. That's not why I'm here. I have bigger things to concern myself with. There are chemicals released as you heat the plastisol, there are a whole lot of nasty chemicals released when you burn it. All of which a particulate filter will not touch. Get a mask, have it fitted and run the right filters, ones health isn't worth gambling with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
