Apdriver Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 A friend of mine requested some inline spinners and provided a sample bait which is a Panther Martin in #6. Simple little spinner he uses in his guide business for cutthroat. It has an inline spinner blade and I have never used these. I always use a clevis and Indiana or French blade on my inlines. He runs guide trips on a river and fishes relatively swift current. I know this has significance. My question is what are the advantages/disadvantages of the inline over the other spinner blades? Also, for the guys that use inlines a lot, which do you prefer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Apdriver, I use them on almost all my Trout size spinners, 1/16oz and 1/8oz. One of the distinct advantages of the in-line blade is the sound, well at least that is what Panther Martin use to claim but there is something to it. The other thing I noticed is the flash, they spin different, it is almost like a wobble and it produces a flickering type flash that isn't as bright as other blades but it is faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Thanks Smalljaw. I think I'll order the inlines and small loop kit for my Hagens and make some PM knockoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Apdriver, believe it or not, I didn't need to small loop kit for the Hagen's. Now it might have been a little nicer with the smaller loop but it really isn't bad and they have really caught fish, me and my Grandson were killing Brook Trout and Rainbows while other guys just watched as they weren't getting bites on live bait as well as powerbait or other types of spinners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just looking at the number 6 size PM in hand, it is a really small bait with small loops. If it was for me, it wouldn't matter, for sure. I just looked at Hagens and the small loop kit is only 25.-. Just thought I might throw it in with an order. You know how us tacklecrafters are.:-) Smalljaw, you mind throwing up a pic of your spinner or email me one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I use inline blades on all my tail spinners for white/hybrid/striped bass fishing. They spin very easy, they have a decent flash, great sound and they work. Also they don't tend to make the bait run off line like other blades on a clevis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Love the inline spinner threads. Have to order some stuff to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 I have some experience with inline spinners, the inlines are a pretty good bet! If you play with different versions..... small to large blades will track well wether burning or slow rolling them. you have to take the fishing conditions into account ( current, depth, type of fish, and so on ) one thing is for sure inline spinners can be fished fast or slow. I have problems trying to slow down a spinner with a clevis and then trying to start the blade again, with the inline spinner you can bring it almost to a crawl before the blade stops and restarts very easy. btw the pm 6 size I believe is a #4 blade if you going to make it exactly the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted October 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Thanks Azsouth and welcome to TU! The #4 inline blade is what I sized that # 6 Panther Martin. I also weighed the bait on my digital reloading scale in grams. With a little high school math, I came up with the total weight of 1/4 ounce on the #6. Once I destructed the bait, the lure body weighed in at .1432 ounces. Hook was a number 8 treble. J. Barlow received a nice order last night:-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Love coming home from work and seeing that package sitting on the steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 thank you Apdriver you can really fine tune what you want the bait to do with larger blade or play with the weight. I have made a couple of hundred of them( pm knock-off ) and tested everyone from .18 to .5 oz. the heavier the weight the faster the retrieve has to be. I have also found that two beads instead of one makes a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 The inline or sonic blade design while turning on the lure shaft rather than clevis mount blades start very smoothly. The light refraction ie flash is enhanced do to the unique concave design which disperses the light in so many directions while it rotates. Coupled with the sonic vibration from the enhanced water displacement, again do to the shape and tight spin radius makes these blades very effective. I have thrown a lot of #28 size which is a 5/8 oz for pike and muskie for years with great success. I have also caught large bass while using them. Point to note: the blade requires a solid brass bead to spin on , hollow beads do wear out easier and with use so I like solid beads. Normally the spinner body is weighted either lead or brass. which adds to casting range and depth of water easily fished. With the old school pm lures which had lead tapered bodies with a lot of casting the bead and blade actually disfigure the front tapper portion of the lead body and have to be filed or reworked to keep alignment and the look of the lure nice. I have had to re wire baits from wear use and bead failure so they are very durable I have used glass beads behind the brass bearing bead which the blade rubs against to get a clicking sound while varying the retrieve speed to add an extra dimension the the presentation. Dressed or undressed trebles work well and the total lure length can be shortened to allow the blade tip to run just forward of the hook points without to much fouling of hook and dressing. The angle which the blade tracks the center shaft is very consistent and dose not really change with a faster or slower retrieve. Yes you can slow roll the blades but once started it is fairly predictable. Hope this info and experience helps. I love the sonic blades. Cheers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I need to order another 500 #4 inline blades. I've got seven left from the 500 I ordered last spring. I always use a solid brass bead behind the blade and a glass bead behind that. Hagen's here I come! I also need willow leaf blades for the new herring head underspin mold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Been making them since the late 70's and still do - I'll try any type of blade and I've gotten some nice old blades on ebay. I too have found a glass bead really helps on them. I use the old Netcraft wire former, but also have a handheld worth and I just got a Dubro tool that I haven't played with yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I just found the best round nosed pliers I've used. The Knipex 19 01 130. I use them to close the tail wire on my tail spinners. You can make a very small loop with these pliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Being new to making wire shafts, what is a good eye size for spinners? I'm using a set jewellers pliers and needle nose. Is a 1/8" ID pretty good using these tools? Just trying to learn about something I'm up to. Edited November 1, 2016 by DaleSW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 personally I like the round nose pliers like LimpNoodle is using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) From my experience vast majority of salmon and steelhead fisherman using in-line spinners with clevises - not PM. Basically it is Mepps flying "C" and Blue Fox. Edited November 6, 2016 by ING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIkayakangler Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I've been messing around for a couple weeks making a few inlines. #1 or #2 mepps are my top producers for both smallies and trout. I've trying out different combinations and I'm right between 1/8 oz and 1/6 oz so pretty happy with that. Just testing out in home #2 Colorado blades seem to spin best for me, yet to try it on river. Have a few #1 and #2 in Colorado and Indiana to see which works best. Most of my beads have been hobby lobby also made a few with bullet weights. Just trying to get better at making my end loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 On February 9, 2017 at 6:15 AM, MIkayakangler said: I've been messing around for a couple weeks making a few inlines. #1 or #2 mepps are my top producers for both smallies and trout. I've trying out different combinations and I'm right between 1/8 oz and 1/6 oz so pretty happy with that. Just testing out in home #2 Colorado blades seem to spin best for me, yet to try it on river. Have a few #1 and #2 in Colorado and Indiana to see which works best. Most of my beads have been hobby lobby also made a few with bullet weights. Just trying to get better at making my end loop. Looks gorges ! For me. Now main question: how it is attractive for fish in the field test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hester Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just a note about the clevis. While there are folks that favor folded over stirrup and vise-versa, the folded is best used on monofiliment for leader rigs like Wedding Rings or on cable for lake trolls/flashers. For use on wire a stirrup clevis is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
