Pure Action Baits Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) I open pour my senkos and I usually use Hd sinking additive. Tonight I used salt and softener and every senko comes out with a different amount of salt in the bait. Is there a way to keep the salt consistent in the senkos. Edited October 27, 2016 by Pure Action Baits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Stir stir and stir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Action Baits Posted October 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Would you suggest getting an injection mold instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 you'll still have to stir stir and stir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 I've caught just as many (if not more) fish on open pour senkos versus the injection version, but like Dave said........over-the-top stirring. Don't know if you've tried this, but I found it easier to mix everything in the cold plastic before heating. That way, you can continually stir as you go. Better chance of keeping all ingredients together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Action Baits Posted October 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Okay thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Try to pour as cold as you can, this will help salt suspend as well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Would you suggest getting an injection mold instead? Without question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Without question! Why though? It isn't going to solve the issue of the salt suspending in the cup before it gets to the mold, only stirring with do that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATFLATTIE Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Why though? It isn't going to solve the issue of the salt suspending in the cup before it gets to the mold, only stirring with do that. I do feel that a multicavity injection mold will make more uniform baits at least in my experience. The only hand pour I have is an 8" and it just takes so long to pour that it almost needs to somehow be stirred while you are pouring...havent quite figured out how to do that in my feeble mind yet haha. I did order some actual salt for bait making to try instead of table salt so I'm thinking that should help it suspend better. I do stir well in between each cavity. Most of my big sticks are pretty uniform until the last one...its like a brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 I've found that injecting my senko molds at 325+-, and stirring hard before I fill my injector, gives me baits that seem to have even flake/salt/ballast placement. When I place one horizontally in my test bucket, with a wacky hook and O ring in the middle, the bait falls horizontally, and shimmies at both ends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Why though? It isn't going to solve the issue of the salt suspending in the cup before it gets to the mold, only stirring with do that. You won't have that problem if you use the Shooting Star System w/ stirrers. I use Bear's Ultra fine salt & Reptile sand from Petco. Cutting the bait open w/ a razor blade shows equal distribution throughtout the bait. I do not use Pyrex cups when ballast is added to specific plastics Edited October 28, 2016 by smallmouthaholic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 You won't have that problem if you use the Shooting Star System w/ stirrers. I use Bear's Ultra fine salt & Reptile sand from Petco. Cutting the bait open w/ a razor blade shows equal distribution throughtout the bait. I do not use Pyrex cups when ballast is added to specific plastics Most guys hand-pouring don't own a shooting star, Nor have desire to invest 1300.00... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 And to be fair, You could 40x your out put, problem free with a real injection machine as well. Were does one stop? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 You won't have that problem if you use the Shooting Star System w/ stirrers. I use Bear's Ultra fine salt & Reptile sand from Petco. Cutting the bait open w/ a razor blade shows equal distribution throughtout the bait. I do not use Pyrex cups when ballast is added to specific plastics I realize that as I own a few (use them on a daily basis as well). You are basically telling someone just getting into pouring baits that they should be spending $1200.00 - $1600.00 JUST to make stick baits with even salt distribution. Sorry but that isn't really the best advice one could be giving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Personally, I'm sure I'd be living in a dog house somewhere if I ever tried to convince my wife that was a smart investment. I think I had like 300 bucks to start with.........and that was for EVERYTHING. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 And to be fair, You could 40x your out put, problem free with a real injection machine as well. Were does one stop? At the bank, and then the liquor store on the way home from the bank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Guys, I didn't say he had to have a shooting star,I just told him in detail what I use.Not a problem to fill a cup and stir then draw plastic from. There are caveats using Pyrex and hand stirring. Making your own baits is not a cheap hobby to get involved in. The majority will use injection molds and eventually want two-color products for their own use.If you want to continue the crucifixion directed @ me,have @ it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Guys, I didn't say he had to have a shooting star,I just told him in detail what I use.Not a problem to fill a cup and stir then draw plastic from. There are caveats using Pyrex and hand stirring. Making your own baits is not a cheap hobby to get involved in. The majority will use injection molds and eventually want two-color products for their own use.If you want to continue the crucifixion directed @ me,have @ it. Sorry, Guess I misinterpreted it. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Sorry, Guess I misinterpreted it. LOL Lenard, Thank you. Injection is the majority,hand -pour is of the minority. I myself started out as hand pour 12 years ago and believe many of us( who sell baits commercially) started that way. Once you get into injection,then the desire for two-color is around the corner.It's a never ending money pit- whether your hobby or pro. One has to draw the line on both avenues. I'm happy and satisfied @ my level of commercially selling baits and have absolutely no intention of buying Zorn machines. Trying to complete w/ the established mass producers is a fast track into bankruptcy. Al 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Lenard, Thank you. Injection is the majority,hand -pour is of the minority. I myself started out as hand pour 12 years ago and believe many of us( who sell baits commercially) started that way. Once you get into injection,then the desire for two-color is around the corner.It's a never ending money pit- whether your hobby or pro. One has to draw the line on both avenues. I'm happy and satisfied @ my level of commercially selling baits and have absolutely no intention of buying Zorn machines. Trying to complete w/ the established mass producers is a fast track into bankruptcy. Al Oh you might someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchilton Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Cooler plastic is more viscous and will suspend salt better. That's why you'd want to pour as cool as possible. Also, the finer the salt the slower it will settle in the plastic. Aluminum molds will pull away heat to solidify the plastic more quickly before salt can settle. Also, starting with cool molds will help cool the bait down faster, regardless of the material the mold is made of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 We still hand pour a lot of our product. We use Cargill sea salt and run it through a blender to make it a fine powder. It will stay suspended at the cooler temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
