dpalinsk Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) KBS released the KBS Diamond clearcoat in the aerosol can last week and I recieved my order on Wednesday. The reason I am trying this product is to see how well it works as the seal coat on wooden lures. I'm a home builder and have very little experience making wood lures. I buy kits from Salty's. The appeal for the aerosol can product was the ability to easily spray on KBS for the seal coat rather brush it or something like Solarez on and then have sand out my screw ups and other imperfections. So far, I like it. As expected, I can easily lay down smooth coats of KBS. The only issue I encountered was that I got some bubbles on two of the 12 coats that I sprayed. I'm not sure why, but in both case, it was on the first coat. I sprayed three coats on each lure and only sanded between coats on those that had bubbles. I waited about an hour between coats. They came out great! The coating was super clear and glossy and I think, adequately thick enough. After 24 hours, I sanded them with 150 and primers them with Wicked white opaque. Here's some pics showing them in the three stages. I'll follow up with additional info as work on these lures progresses. David Edited October 28, 2016 by dpalinsk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzfly Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 They look nice, but why three coats? What is the recommended time to recoat after the first.coat and successive coats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northrivergeek Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Bubbles are probably air in the pores of the wood.. additional coats no longer have the issue, because you sealed it the first time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northrivergeek Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 They look nice, but why three coats? What is the recommended time to recoat after the first.coat and successive coats? if spraying .. the first few coats are mainly just a sealer, and in many wood lures, sealers, such as kbs, epoxy etc .. raise the grain slightly.. balsa does it .. seal first .. then sand down any raised grain, and if needed additional coats to seal up any places you sanded through the sealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 A thick coat is the bubble cause... Use thinner coats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckinswimb8s Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I bought a can of this to use on my swimbaits, havent tried it yet. I got kind of wary about using it after reading the safety precautions on the label. I spray outside and use a respirator but dont have an air fed mask like what it calls for on the can. Guess I should of did a little more research before buying it. Found out it releases isocyanates when sprayed. I guess I'll just stick to brushing it on. Here's the link I read it if you're wondering. https://success.kbs-coatings.com/topic/1414-diamondfinish-isocyanate-release/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnart Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Can this spray form be used as an epoxy to finish baits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 It's being said yes. The issue seems to be the toxins. I use the liquid but I'm following the thread, I'm curious too. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty's Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I recognize those lures 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkmeatballs Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Does this clear coat go bad after a certain time like the automotive clear coat does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpalinsk Posted August 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 I haven't used auto clear so I can't comment on it, but my can of aerosol KBS that I was so happy with when I first used it, has crinkled several lures after sitting in the garage for a few months. I'm reluctant to use it anymore as it ruined a number of lures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrnie Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) I have used both KBS clear and matte on plastic crankbaits, pretty happy with results. I use 6 or 7 coats and try to spray coats 10 or 15 minutes apart, then let them dry for a few days. I spray light coats. I have had a couple of lures crinkle, I think it was because I added a coat after they had dried a couple of days, but not sure. It will fog up if sprayed outside when humid, I spray it inside in a booth I built using an inline 6 inch fan running into an activated charcoal filter used for indoor grow tents. It works really well. I've fished with lures I cleared with KBS all summer and haven't noticed any yellowing or peeling. These are jerkbaits I cleared with KBS, the best thing about it is how easy it is to apply, time will tell how durable it is. Edited August 20, 2017 by berrnie fix spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkmeatballs Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Looks great! So i'm assuming that it won't go bad like automotive clear coat does? I know that the automotive starts to react once you first start using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrnie Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 I have never used automotive clear coat, this stuff really goes on just about like any other aerosol clear coat. I have used a can over several weeks and can't tell any difference from full to empty. I have mostly used Devcon 2 ton epoxy on my lures, I have used others but always went back to D2T. I like KBS because there is no mixing or brushing, just spray it on. It does take several coats and I have found it takes several days to get a really hard finish, hope this helps. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkmeatballs Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Hmmmm I think I might seriously consider this KBS. It is a little pricey, but it sounds pretty easy to apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkmeatballs Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 I just purchased a can of KBS from Amazon. We'll see how well it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkmeatballs Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Oh, and one more question: can I spray a jointed swimbait that is already assembled or will it clog up the joints? Should I spray each segment individually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 For me, wooden baits need to be separated before they are sprayed, and then reassembled, so you can get the insides of the segments waterproofed. Baits made from water proof material, like plastic, resin, or PVC, can be sprayed after they're assembled, if it's too hard to disassemble them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkmeatballs Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Sweet! My lures are resin. so I'll try spraying them while they're still assembled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 2 hours ago, porkmeatballs said: Sweet! My lures are resin. so I'll try spraying them while they're still assembled. Just remember that the top coat is there to protect the paint job, so be sure that you spray anything that's painted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkmeatballs Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Yeah, I don't know how well I'll be able to spray in the joints, but it shouldn't matter too much. As long as it doesn't flake too badly, I should be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkmeatballs Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Waiting on the first coat to dry! I can barely see the clear on the bait. How many coats would you guys recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Fisher Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I usually do two, but I dip the bait not spray, then place on a turner. I would try several light coats until you achieve the desired coverage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkmeatballs Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I only did two coats with the spray. We'll see if that's enough... Seems kind of thin though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I believe what was told to me about dipping, two dips equals about D2T. Spraying, dunno. I really got to make booth. I would really like to spray, it would make it easier. As far as jointed baits there a few things you can do. Rubber band around the hinge, BobP (I think) told me about a liquid frisket film. I couldn't find that around here, sooo..... I started thinking what could I use? I came up with White Out, used to cover up writing on paper. A little clean up will be needed. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
