cranky Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Looking for anyone that can explain bleeding colors and non-bleeding colors. I was looking over the MF site in the coloring selections and seen some colors were bleeding and others weren't. Any suggestions for colors in price and consistency (which manufactures and quality). Appreciate all the help from the forum. This place (and all you guy's) have answered several questions that took me alot of time to figure out on my own. I love reading something and get the old Ah Ha! that's why that happens affect. Thanks All, Cranky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 bleeding colors will run. For example puting chart. baits in with white ones will relust in thw white yellowing out and taking in the chart color. a lot of purples are the worse bleeders in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsac Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 I don't let anything 'red' touch anything else If you want an example, throw a couple of amber, rootbeer or other light brownish color worms (senkos are good for this) in a bag with red or purple worms for a few days. They actually turn a pretty nice color, but the original color is ruined. CJ mentioned the chartruese colored baits. If you want to buy this color, buy fluorescent yellow instead. It will still bleed on very light (almost clear) colored plastics, but not nearly as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 yea forgot to mention the flo yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Do you guys use worm oil or something with the flo. yellow? I know the stuff is supposed to be mixed before heating, but I can't keep from getting yellow clumps in my mixture. Same goes for all flo. colors. Seems I'm the only guy who can't use Lure Craft's flo. colors. I have no problems with any of MF's though. What am I missing here? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsac Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 You know what Chris, the fluorescents are a hit and miss for me. That includes LC bubblegum. I always add color before heating, but every so often it clumps on me Maybe we need to mix it better before adding it to the plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Several years ago I used to put a couple red shad worm in a bag of pumpkinseed worms and wait a week. It comes out as a very interesting color.( I did this with Berkley products) Won a few tournaments with that worm. Got to try that again worm again. I had forgotten about it. Thanks Guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 make sure to scrap the bottom when mixing the flo. colors cause it sinks down to the bottom. Mix it really well scaping the bottom and it should help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Well Jake, at least I'm not the only one with that problem. Dave at Lure Craft recommended that I try mixing worm oil in the color. I've mixed so much that it was mostly oil, and it still clumped on me. I have tried everything I can think of to mix it well; screwdriver, shaking, beating, cussing..... ......still clumps. I guess me and fluorescent colors just weren't made to work together. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 wow i never had a problem with clumping. wierd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigZ Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 I know that this may be a dumb question but what does "Changeable" Motor Oil mean, there is one other color listed (Brown Grape?)as that on MF's website too. There are also non bleed colors, those are self explanatory. I thought all of the colors were changeable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Hey Z, "Changeable" just describes the characteristic of the color. Example: Motor Oil - brown inside / green outside Brown Grape - grape inside / brown outside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Al, maybe the color needs to be whipped at a higher speed. Have you tried the drill bit we use to mix the rubber? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 From my research, what I've come to understand is that there are two basic categories of plastic coloring: Dyes and Pigments. Dyes: Are the true translucents/transparents. They also bleed. (Makes sense if you think about it, you have one worm loaded with dye as coloring next to a different one, it will "dye" the one next to it) Pigments:Are colored opaque particles. Put enough in plastic and the you will see the color of the particles in the plastic. These are opaque. They do not bleed. If you put a little in a worm, it sort of looks translucent, but isn't trully. (sort of like looking through a dirty windshield). As it is particles, it makes sense that they don't bleed, as the particle can't get up and move to the other bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...