SW Lures Posted January 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 I was the OP so I have NO problem with what you did Pete. I have enjoyed the conversation, as it is. I'm very interested in these type things. As far as Big blue2 I'll try to help. I had a design I thought, but a different size part showed up and the plans basically went out the window. Most of the materials were scrape. So I was winging it as I went a long. As I said earlier Big blue2, there is another one one YouTube. He sells plans, mine is modified all over the place. Same thought but I saw changes that would improve the design. Look up duplicator. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 To me, the thing that makes Pete's build unique is his automatic feeding of square stock. so it can make many units with one setup. Really what is needed from a production machine. I would never use it, but I am in awe of his whole build. If I had one, I'd probably load it and just run it to watch it run, like one of those marble drop machines, or domino runs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 1/8/2017 at 1:33 PM, mark poulson said: I hope it came with an instruction manual, and all the appropriate safety warnings. Hahaha!! Mark I laughed so hard! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 On 1/10/2017 at 1:08 AM, mark poulson said: To me, the thing that makes Pete's build unique is his automatic feeding of square stock. so it can make many units with one setup. Really what is needed from a production machine. I would never use it, but I am in awe of his whole build. If I had one, I'd probably load it and just run it to watch it run, like one of those marble drop machines, or domino runs. " If I had one, I'd probably load it and just run it to watch it run, like one of those marble drop machines, or domino runs. " Yes Mark it fascinates me too, , sometimes I just have to load another stick in and watch it run , This past week I have cut about 50-60 blanks of the size pictured above --60mm (2 1/4'' ) for Bream/ Trout / Bass here, these should last me all year, unless I donate/ sell/ OR gift some. This morning I cut about 8 X 4" versions of this blank for some ''protos'' I want to try, this is where I DO save a lot of time, I would rather paint and finish lures than carve them. Everyone thinks machine carved blanks save a heap of time, the only time saved is while the machine is eating wood, I can be somewhere else in the shop sanding or priming blanks ready to paint---for me painting, is Nirvana Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, hazmail said: " If I had one, I'd probably load it and just run it to watch it run, like one of those marble drop machines, or domino runs. " Yes Mark it fascinates me too, , sometimes I just have to load another stick in and watch it run , This past week I have cut about 50-60 blanks of the size pictured above --60mm (2 1/4'' ) for Bream/ Trout / Bass here, these should last me all year, unless I donate/ sell/ OR gift some. This morning I cut about 8 X 4" versions of this blank for some ''protos'' I want to try, this is where I DO save a lot of time, I would rather paint and finish lures than carve them. Everyone thinks machine carved blanks save a heap of time, the only time saved is while the machine is eating wood, I can be somewhere else in the shop sanding or priming blanks ready to paint---for me painting, is Nirvana Pete Working on a Video, know nothing about it SO bear with me. Edited January 13, 2017 by hazmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 6 hours ago, hazmail said: Working on a Video, know nothing about it SO bear with me. It will be fun to watch, I'm sure. I'm the opposite. I love the carving and building of lures. I paint them, but that is hard work for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted January 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 I do enjoy painting. I just enjoy the shaping of the baits more. I enjoy designing a new one even more. I know I'm really near the dark side. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 I'm with Pete on this....I'm in it for the paint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 I can carve quite well (I think), but as an engineer, I would much sooner watch the machine do the job for me. I still have to carve the master, and for that I am prepared to put the extra time in to get the master as perfect as I can. My ultimate duplicator machine would use the CAD master to create the copies. The CNC knowledge for such a machine is beyond my capabilities at the moment. I hope one day to hook up with a CNC expert and get the machine built. Dave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 12 hours ago, Vodkaman said: I can carve quite well (I think), but as an engineer, I would much sooner watch the machine do the job for me. I still have to carve the master, and for that I am prepared to put the extra time in to get the master as perfect as I can. My ultimate duplicator machine would use the CAD master to create the copies. The CNC knowledge for such a machine is beyond my capabilities at the moment. I hope one day to hook up with a CNC expert and get the machine built. Dave Dave, I can't wait for that video! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted January 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 There is a person in a bait group in Facebook that I belong to that is tinkering around with the 3D. My first thought was Dave. Then I thought it looks ok, but will It fish? I can differently make a fine looking bait! The question is will it catch fish? That's why I say, "the real test is does it or will it catch fish"? I can make a bait look mighty pretty, but that's just a part of the whole. I got a war dog and it looks pretty bad now......"it will catch fish". This person is new to making baits I think. We'll see? I'll keep y'all posted. Then again I may never really know. Dale 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Dale - Creating the bare body will not determine the success of the lure, it is what you do with it in the following operations that converts the pretty piece of wood into a lure that catches fish. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) That person is new to bait making. As we all have been through there is a learning curve even with the type of help that I have had. I still had failures which to me helped me to improve and I'm still going through. I may never come out of that phase. I am going to call this person he, because of the type of name. He has found some patterns to give him the numbers for the layouts. These have cavities for buoyancy and locations for ballast and a through wire. All of these seem approximately correct by just seeing a pic. He is doing this in two pieces, vertically seperated from tail to nose. Not knowing nothing very much about this, it seems that he could bring the patterns together to to create a one piece bait. Maybe I can get him over to TU, this could be very interesting. Dale Edited January 15, 2017 by DaleSW Added to comment 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 I finished carving 4 square bills the other day.. sealed them... Got them ready for paint... Said screw it and left them bare. Put a clear over it. Gave em hooks. I'm just gonna fish them bare wood and see what happens. I'll fish them each for 30 minutes and find out which works best, catches most fish. I might even paint one eventually. I'm totally with you Mark... I don't enjoy the painting nearly as much as the lure building itself.. and I'm lazy when it comes to painting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted January 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Jonister let me know if you catch some fish. I was commenting about this on another thread several weeks earlier and one today. I am curious because I know you have experience to build a very good bait. No paint will tell me which is more important, paint scheme or shape, action, as long that there are fish in the water. I've seen vid's that people have caught fish without a paint scheme and have on one of mine during testing. Dale 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Dale I will! Usually we don't have ice, like ever, maybe once a year, but we seem to be in some polar plunge so I'm waiting till there is enough open water to launch my kayak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
