SW Lures Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Pete you did it. I'm interested in how yours works & looks. Pic' s??? Please! Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 The occasional post on the subject once or twice per year is enough to keep all the players in touch, as I have said, there are only a few of us. I normally use bicycle chains and sprockets for the drive mechanism. My new bicycle seat design uses bevel gears. Unfortunately I was unable to source the gears at the right size and right price, so I decided to do the research and design my own, to be cast in resin. If the gears work out, this will open up a whole new world of possibilities, being able to manufacture my own gears to the exact spec that I require. I haven't begun to collect the ideas yet, but the dup m/c would be a place to start; by gearing down the drive screw speed, the surface finish can be directly controlled. This function can be done by sprocket and chain, but it gets messy and cumbersome. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoffbossn Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 This is insanely cool, the first ive seen of its likes but I am new here. Keep building its your therapeutic puzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 No problem Dale, I just need to take some newer pics but pretty busy today as I am heading off tomorrow for Christmas (1200 m drive) so I will try and take some pics when I get back before new year. The picture below is of an earlier version (Jan 2015), that is 2 years back so there has been quite a few changes since. also LOVE that old Gunstock Lathe. As you may be able to see instead of rollers and pipe I opted to go semi CNC and used 4 linear bearings and 2 x bars for the horizontal slides with a ball nut to drive the bed along, all very Sssmmmmmoooooth - and pretty cheap these days on eBay. Anyway I will check back in after Christmas with some newer pics. Have a safe and Merry Christmas all. Pete 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) WOW, I feel a little stone age compared to yours Pete. I see what your talking about now with the feeding system. Nice work, quite complex. Even a dust system. That's what I am going to put on mine. I have the main trunk line near by and I'll just drop a flex hose down. The other turner/duplicator with the gun stocks is interesting. It seems that any horizontal turning of a piece is and most become much more complex (drive system, gears, shafts, etc). I guess we all have a Inspector Gadget in us. You do the same Pete! Dale Edited December 13, 2016 by DaleSW Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 It would be nice to be Pete's next door neighbor. A definite learning experience. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 hour ago, RayburnGuy said: It would be nice to be Pete's next door neighbor. A definite learning experience. Ben Yeah, but you heard him. He's got a 1200 mile drive just to visit him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 And yeah not to mention a gulf, a continent....maybe two, two oceans for Ray. Way to far for a four wheeler ride. I have been thinking of a motor being mounted underneath and bring the one drive shaft up with quality gears to change angles, divide to each side. This should keep the movement constant and smooth. Another thing that I didn't mention is I use metal bits. The reason is, these don't have such a wide gap between the cutters. This way the cutter doesn't get gum up as bad. The second thing is the metal seems much better. The sad thing is I prefer making my baits by hand at this time. If you look at my messy table, on the right you will see my files, knives, pencils, etc. One day I may go back but I feel I'm learning much more doing it by hand. I enjoy it. Dale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 Sorry for the delay, it's been a pretty busy Christmas/ New year, hope everyone had a good break. Took a while to get the pics and edit them, hope they are clear enough to spot whatever you are looking for. This version is about 12 months advanced to the previous Pic (compare ''Plan Views") , so there have been a lot of alterations/ tweaking--next big job is to organize the wiring, looks like a nightmare doesn't it?? Pete 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted January 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 Very nice set up Pete. Lol, mine now looks to be out of the stone age. Won't even try to make one of those. I'm just very interest in what you have done with your duplicator and understand why, except for one thing. I notice you are using AC input (or think I do), but why are you using DC? I figure you are going to get a converter and haven't had a chance yet. No matter what, it's a very nice set up! Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 Very interesting Pete - good job and thanks for sharing. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Thanks Dale /Dave---the 240V is for a battery charger (12V), and a transformer for the saw which now runs on 18v, gives about 2000 more revs and maybe a bit more torque. The blanks shown in the machine are 60mm (2.5''), by moving the 'stylus' it will cut anything between 100mm (4'') down to 50mm ( 2'' ) blanks , using the same ' pattern". It's self feeding and takes up to 4 minutes a cycle (4") depending on the blank length or about 12-15 blanks a 7' stick. Looking at the dates on that originally posted picture, it's just on 2 years since I started this version, there were another couple of versions before that, so have been playing around for probably 3 years --I like to think I'm learning something but sh-t it's taken some time . Pete Edited January 8, 2017 by hazmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpalinsk Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 Very impressive! I'd love to see a video of your duplicator duplicating someday. I'm amazed at what y'all accomplish! David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 Great stuff Pete. Your right about the wiring though. It does resemble something out of a bomb squad manual. j/k Ben 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted January 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 LOL Ben, I'm impressed with Pete's duplicator. I saw the wiring but it gave me a chance to see where it went to. A lot of guessing on my part. It's funny to see people adapt to a issue that they face and start to find answers. It's been happening ever since man. I would like to see it in action to. It's impressive nevertheless. Thanks Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) You are a clever devil! How is the stock advanced? Edited January 8, 2017 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 5 hours ago, DaleSW said: LOL Ben, I'm impressed with Pete's duplicator. I saw the wiring but it gave me a chance to see where it went to. A lot of guessing on my part. It's funny to see people adapt to a issue that they face and start to find answers. It's been happening ever since man. I would like to see it in action to. It's impressive nevertheless. Thanks Pete Oh I was impressed too Dale. Pete's knowledge of all the different components used in his duplicator, and how they work together, is nothing short of genius. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted January 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 I'm sure you were Ben, I just thought it was funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 wow. just wow. This stuff you guys put together is incredible. Maybe ill go get a degree in mechanical engineering just to make more lures For now, i got a new carving knife.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, jonister said: wow. just wow. This stuff you guys put together is incredible. Maybe ill go get a degree in mechanical engineering just to make more lures For now, i got a new carving knife.. I hope it came with an instruction manual, and all the appropriate safety warnings. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblue2 Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 hello I was wondering if you could share the plans for duplicater machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saugerman Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 There are some very smart people on this forum, I love to see what you come up with. Great work guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Q .."LOL Ben, I'm impressed with Pete's duplicator. I saw the wiring but it gave me a chance to see where it went to. A lot of guessing on my part. It's funny to see people adapt to a issue that they face and start to find answers. It's been happening ever since man. I would like to see it in action to. It's impressive nevertheless. Thanks Pete " Thanks Dale and everyone else . This morning out of the blue I realized I have "Hijacked " you thread Dale, I'm very sorry it was never my intention, I saw your thread "My Duplicator & Shop" and just assumed it was Paste Your Duplicator, how bloody stupid I am. Anyway my intention was not to take anything away from yours Dale, just show the variations, these things are basically all the same at the cutting head but with slightly different ways of getting there. Sorry mate bigBlue2 - sorry no plans here, this thing has evolved over 2-3 years , it sometimes really tests my memory when I need to alter something. You should be able to get an idea of most of the components/ processes from the posted pictures, this is why I posted them- the principles in most copy lathes are very similar, nothing new here--check out the pic of the Gun stock Lathe, lots of similarities here too. Mark-- The stock is pulled in when the saw head returns to begin a new blank-- by the pawl attached to the bottom bed, see att pic. I really need to start a new thread-- Pete. Edited January 9, 2017 by hazmail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 That is really slick!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Ok who are you guys and how come your not building rockets? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
