stumpjumper16 Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 just wondering which one of these finish coats will add more wait on a crank bait finish and which is more durable since I have not had any experience with Kbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 KBS is dipable and no mixing is required..Just dip and hang..Envirotex is a good top coat but is VERY picky about the two part ratio and mixing correctly and it needs to be rotated after application. As for weight..I would guess Envirotex just a bit heavier..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) For equal coating thicknesses, I'd give the nod to KBS in terms of toughness. As far as weight goes, I find that any of the popular finishes on a typical 2 1/2" bass crank weighs about .02 ounces including the paint. That's not much to worry about unless you are building a suspending crank, in which case you need to customize the bait's ballast anyway. Edited January 10, 2017 by BobP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 KBS is pretty thin. Mine went off in the can though recently so I'm thinking I'm going to change things up.. Etex is nice but It was always a guessing game weather or not It would cure. I go with Art resin now. It is about the same as far as weight goes, but is much clearer and a lot moree forgiving with mix ratio. Definitely heavier though, or at least it goes on heavier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Jonister, How were you storing and using your KBS when it went off in the can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Fisher Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, mark poulson said: Jonister, How were you storing and using your KBS when it went off in the can? I'm curious as well. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Once the KBS can is opened, If any gets on the rim or slot, It will cause a bad seal on the next use... Best choice I have found is opening the can, Thin 20% Xylene/Xylol and put into a mason jar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 I did the zylene and put it in a Mason jar. I've probably had it for about 8 or 9 months now? I never went through the whole thing but I used it a bunch. I think I'm going to get more Solarez and Art resin next time I order stuff. Maybe try dick nite and bloxygen, and then spray it on. I don't like the idea of expensive stuff going off in the can. Or get the KBS and just tap the can next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpjumper16 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 I have found a good ratio for e-Tex 2.9 ml of hardener with 2.6 of resin. I think that's what I'm going to use. My bait and components weigh 10g so I should be able to get the 11.75 grams needed to equal the weight of a speed trap quarter oz bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpjumper16 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 By the way, I don't use a turner to dry with e-Tex , just hemostats and my hands. No drip most of the time, just sit on counter and flip upside down every few minutes for an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Fisher Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Nice paint! You're about to meet Curt! Welcome to the Underground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 7 hours ago, stumpjumper16 said: I have found a good ratio for e-Tex 2.9 ml of hardener with 2.6 of resin. I think that's what I'm going to use. My bait and components weigh 10g so I should be able to get the 11.75 grams needed to equal the weight of a speed trap quarter oz bait. I have also found that the quarter oz speed trap weighs more than a quarter oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Weigh your "1/4" oz or "1/2" oz baits and tell us the weight. It's funny how off they can be. Some companies are really good though when it comes to that stuff. Maybe that's why I always had a soft coat, just never experimented with different ratios.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
