Soupysayso Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Ok, I have been fishing in-line spinners, mostly mepps and rooster tails, and kicking some butt on a TOUGH, clear lake for bass. I would like to 1)make my own using higher quality components and 2)get my lure much deeper without counting but maintaining similar size profile of baits. I prefer the overall length of size 4 bladed mepps but the weight is much too light and I don't like the tails. Rooster tail makes some heavier baits but we all know what happens after one big fish, UN-fixable lure. I do like the material tied to the treble on the rooster tails, is that calf tail or marabou? I am looking for either a lure body mold for lead (which I fear may hinder the overall profile size of the lure) or tungsten weights in the shape of mojo weights that can fit a .035 diameter wire, again looking at 3/4oz, 1oz, possibly heavier. Second, I like the tubing material on mepps' flying c's.....but it doesn't come in white!!!!!!! : Any sources for any of these materials would be greatly appreciated, and I'm quite sure much of this will be coming around the bend in 2005, just trying to get a jump on the competition before everybody else has them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaucus Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 http://www.mortac.com/ has white tubing. http://www.pen-tac.com/blades.html might have extra heavy SS spinner bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soupysayso Posted September 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Glaucus, mortac has the tubing, the link is much appreciated. The lure bodies of the SS from pen-tac are not much heavier than what I have going right now but I appreciate the help. Might just have to wait on mojo to come out with their tungsten weights and fix them to my wire somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jighead Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 hi if you are looking for 3/4 to 1 oz bodys for spinners you can use a doit bottom bouncer mold it will give you the weight you whant or use the doit lore body mold . jighead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soupysayso Posted September 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Hi jighead, I actually thought that might work but don't know anybody who has actually done it. Have you done it? I was worried that big body would bind the blade of the spinner. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGMAKER Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Soupy, If you have a problem with the blade binding up, place and extra, smaller, smooth metal bead( or two) between the blade and the body and it should give you the clearance you need. If you use a solid bead it will also give you a little more weight. Depending on what your fishing for and were you are fishing the extra bead might give you some extra flash or another color to help match the hatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jig head Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I am using 3/4 oz finesse weights from bass pro to make big in-line spinners. They have a large enough diameter to fit over .051" wire. They are lead, so they may be a little bulkier than what you want. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soupysayso Posted September 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I posted a picture of the 3/4oz and 1oz spinners I have made using penetrator weights in the wire forum. I have tested them on the lake and had a couple of problems maybe y'all can help! First, some of them really created line twist. Second, some of them were nearly impossible to get the spinner going, I had to jerk the rod like I was setting the hook. I have a two theories as to why both of these problems are occuring. The first is that I have too much wire space in front of the weight making the lure more tail balanced instead of center balanced. The second theory is that I am not using a big enough bead ahead of the weight to extend the blade out away from the shaft and thereby catching water flow easier. Any help would be appreciated. Unfortunately, I do not have pictures of the two smallmouth I caught that were almost the length of my golden rule 22 3/4" and 23 1/2" inches respectively. I also hooked a fish that bent my treble hook out straight, suspect it was a striper. I had to remove about 50ft of line when I was done fishing because it was badly twisted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGMAKER Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 soupy, If you are having trouble with line twist put an appropriate sized swivel on the tie eye of the spinner. The swivel will stop the line twist. It might not be the look you were going for but it will be functional. if you get a chrome or stainless swivel it will add some flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soupysayso Posted October 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Jig, the whole front of the wire is gyrating so bad it almost looks like a crankbait lip It's not going in circles, it's just going left to right, like.....well.....a crankbait! Although, my line is knarly when I'm done fishing the heavy spinners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGMAKER Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Sounds like the blade might not be spinning correctly. Try using a clevis for the blade and put a bead between the body and the clevis and the eyelet and the clevis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jig head Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 I can't find your picture. Apparently I don't know where to look. How would I find the picture? Sounds interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGMAKER Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Here is the link to soupy's picture. http://www.tackleunderground.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=3640 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soupysayso Posted October 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Jigmaker, or anybody else knowledgeable on this topic, does the weight of a spinner have to be located somewhere specifically on the shaft? I suspect the reason for my troubles is that the weight was not anchored to the wire but instead free floating. Given that it is so heavy, I suspect it was pinching the blade against the lead eye tie. Rooster tails seem to be more center-weighted while mepps seem to be anchored at the back of the wire shaft. Are there advantages to each? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGMAKER Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 It is possible that the free body weight shifted forward pinching the blade and not allowing it to spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Party Crasher Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 You have to be careful about the body weight. If the rear end gets too heavy the blade is trying to spin but the body is at too steep of an angle. That blade wont spin if the body is at a 30 degree angle. Thats why when you really want to go deep you may need to go weight-forward. I use the bottom bouncer mold for big bodies too. But I have a big triple bucktail behind them that stabilizes the weight. Heavy bodies need heavy blades too. I have even nested two blades together with epoxy to get heavier blades. It's all experimentation. Take your wire, blades, bender, and bodies right to the lake and try all the possibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soupysayso Posted October 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Those are great suggestions party. I actually noticed a difference when trying out different trailers. The thicker bucktail trailers definitely help those heavy spinners out versus the feather trebles I was using. Would a tungsten barrel weight be more successful than the bullet weight? Seems to me it is more center balanced and less tail heavy. So far, the mojo weights have been better for what I've been doing. I can drill the hole out wider and slide them on the wire, drop a few drops of lead into the hole to seal them in place and i'm in business. It's like a homemade rooster tail but much cheaper with better quality components. A second question I have is about line twist. I tried the barrel swivel up the line from the spinner and the fish flat out rejected it. Should I try twisting the wire around a barrel swivel so there is no distance between the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Party Crasher Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 If you are getting excessive line twist, there probably is a bigger problem. A properly balanced spinner shouldn't cause excessive line twist. Blades could be too large or heavy. The wire diameter could be too heavy. The clevis could be too small. It's all experimentation. One quick fix is to put a 45 degree bend in the wire between the line tie loop and the clevis. This creates a keel effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
