redneckninji20 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Haven't really found much on the topic. All the ones I have seen were old posts that ended up in a pissing match. Anyways I just ordered the ultramolds 5" and wondering if anyone has experience and what they think about it. Also if there are any larger 6-8" models floating around if all goes well with this I definetly want to go bigger thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippinstick Mike Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I have that mold & i love it. I found I need to use a,drop of worm oil on the ins e rt to get the bait off clean. Shoots well, swims well. You'll be very happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckninji20 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Thanks for the reply! How comparable to a basstrix is the final product? Any pics of some you've done? i also ordered some paint to just shoot a clear swimbait, paint then dip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Flippinstick Mike Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I think the Bass Trix uses a larger insert. But it is similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Basstrix are dipped not injected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckninji20 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Thanks Mike. Those look good! Do you think two inserts can be used at a time? I'm sure they'll swim the same. I can tell the tail is a little thicker as well. Frank meaning dipped starting out as a piece of metal and just keep dipping till the desired size? ( as in the video you have up from awhile ago. I just watched that the other night lol) Or injected painted then dipped? That video is what made me pull the trigger on that mold ha Edited January 29, 2017 by redneckninji20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Dipped from a piece of sheet metal shaped like a fish. Dip till you get close to what you want then paint the back or anything you want add eyes and do a final dip. You can make your own blades out of butter knifes and for a tail a spinner blade soldered to it for a tail. Butter knife was mentioned just because it is easy to get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippinstick Mike Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Not sure about using multiple inserts, but I could see modifying one to add some bulk. But because you pull the insert out after the bait cools, it may tear up the tail if not done right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Frank, don't you have a video on dipping those swimbaits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 59 minutes ago, mark poulson said: Frank, don't you have a video on dipping those swimbaits? Yes I do, I think he said he watched it. And yes the tail could tear if you get real deep in the belly section. Just follow the basic shape of the basstrix and it will work out fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckninji20 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Definitely a learning curve lol ruined one by not having the clear plastic for dipping hot enough and it came out terrible. But the others I did came out awesome. working out some issues with my airbrush but all in all happy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 18 hours ago, redneckninji20 said: Definitely a learning curve lol ruined one by not having the clear plastic for dipping hot enough and it came out terrible. But the others I did came out awesome. working out some issues with my airbrush but all in all happy Those are beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Those are awesome, I have that old, need to get more insert as I I have just one i had to rub the insert with fine sandpaper to get it super smooth and adding worm oil help a ton, I blow air in the opening to be able to get the bait off the insert easier l love your baits, great job on airbrushing them, that is my next step on my learning curve, airbrushing plastics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippinstick Mike Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 On 2/9/2017 at 1:04 AM, redneckninji20 said: Definitely a learning curve lol ruined one by not having the clear plastic for dipping hot enough and it came out terrible. But the others I did came out awesome. working out some issues with my airbrush but all in all happy Looking awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckninji20 Posted February 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Thanks guys! Can't wait to get em out on the water tomorrow. Airbrushing is frustrating at least for me lol I bought the spike it colors or whatever the other brand on their site is and they don't work for me. I hate reducing and want a color that I can just pour and spray. I have some colors that don't work but the main colors I'll be using which are these ones shown work good and they are createx paints that I had from painting hardbaits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelhains Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 I need to see I video of the process! Those are beauties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 55 minutes ago, joelhains said: I need to see I video of the process! Those are beauties! +1 VERY well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckninji20 Posted February 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Oh geez pressure is on I guess lol. I'll do one up next week. Thanks! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 On 2/10/2017 at 2:52 PM, redneckninji20 said: Thanks guys! Can't wait to get em out on the water tomorrow. Airbrushing is frustrating at least for me lol I bought the spike it colors or whatever the other brand on their site is and they don't work for me. I hate reducing and want a color that I can just pour and spray. I have some colors that don't work but the main colors I'll be using which are these ones shown work good and they are createx paints that I had from painting hardbaits. Could. You please explain the problems you are having with the Spikeit colors. Sounds like you bought the water based ones but there are plenty of people that use them here so help is here if you want it. Please include what air brush you are using and the tip size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I have a bunch of Createx and to get colors to run through an airbrush you have to reduce them. It's just the nature of the airbrushes. They have very small passage ways and the tips are usually .035 and smaller to get any detail. This is a copy and paste right out of their " How To" guide. Spray Gun Tip Size: Operate @ 40 PSI. 1.2mm: Touch-Up Gun: 0.8mm – 1.0mm tip-size. Pressure settings may vary. Adjust fluid-adjustment knob for optimum atomization. Airbrush Tip Size: 0.5mm: @ 40-50+ PSI; 0.35m and smaller operate at lower PSI settings and reduce paint to desired viscosity best to atomize particular color with particular airbrush type and tip size. Reduced paint generally has viscosity of milk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckninji20 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I'm using an iwata eclipse hp-bc I think. It's not mine so I have no clue what the specs are on it. It just doesn't spray some colors I have to hold my thumb over the cup to get it to spray. Sometimes it just doesn't spray color and then I release the trigger and it shoots a glob out. I know they need to be reduced I just haven't that part down. I either don't reduce enough or reduce too much. And I don't paint enough to pour exact amounts out to log what I did to get it right. I have some colors I can shake well enough and pour in the airbrush and shoots good. But I have to break it down and clean the airbrush between colors for it to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckninji20 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 On 2/12/2017 at 1:54 PM, Apdriver said: I have a bunch of Createx and to get colors to run through an airbrush you have to reduce them. It's just the nature of the airbrushes. They have very small passage ways and the tips are usually .035 and smaller to get any detail. This is a copy and paste right out of their " How To" guide. Spray Gun Tip Size: Operate @ 40 PSI. 1.2mm: Touch-Up Gun: 0.8mm – 1.0mm tip-size. Pressure settings may vary. Adjust fluid-adjustment knob for optimum atomization. Airbrush Tip Size: 0.5mm: @ 40-50+ PSI; 0.35m and smaller operate at lower PSI settings and reduce paint to desired viscosity best to atomize particular color with particular airbrush type and tip size. Reduced paint generally has viscosity of milk. That could be my issue. For some reason if I remember correctly I saw 15 psi lol. Im running like 20-25 psi. Next time I do some painting I'll bump it up and see if that helps any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 I think you need to reduce your Createx up to 50/50 and I like to use the 4012 High Performance reducer. The guide says you need to run at a lower pressure if using an airbrush with .35mm tip and smaller. I have seen 15 lbs. also and that's where I run my Iawata HP also. It has a .35mm tip and lays down Createx well at this pressure but I do reduce it with the 4012 reducer to the consistency of milk. One thing I have found is multiple light coats are best and their guidance says the same. If you heat set with a heat gun between coats it goes pretty quick. Another thing is the Wicked Pearl colors really have to be reduced a bunch. They come out of the bottle the consistency of a thick mustard and there's no way to spray them without reduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 If I want to paint for a long time I use an air brush with a .8 tip. This is big enough to never have a clogging problem but when the needle is open all the way it is like a hose. You won't have to reduce most colors but they will look Dottie and not smooth. If it looks like that you need to reduce it. Most people don't use anything close to that size needle but it works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
