andy1976 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Does anyone know a good source for the filter board to make fluid beads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Andy if you are referring to the substrate material, you can buy it directly form Component Systems in small sheets. It is a bit pricey, and you will have to cut it in a circle to fit your fluid bed. There are other materials you can use as well, like vacuum cleaner bags, Tyvek, computer paper, coffee filters, brown bags, and also allergy pillow cases. Not all of the substrates will work for all of the powders. There will be some trial an error, as all powder paint have different densities and chemical make-ups. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Thanks cadman I've found it before in larger sheets. I think if was filter board or fluid board. I'm using some 20 colors and I don't want to have to vacuum out my fluid bed each time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I have a source. It's about $120 shipped for a 4'x4' sheet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 hours ago, LimpNoodle said: I have a source. It's about $120 shipped for a 4'x4' sheet. I may split it with a friend. I would have it shipped tou partner and have him CNC the circles. Could you inbox me Also if you're interested in ordering together I would be. Thanks limpnoodle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 hours ago, LimpNoodle said: I have a source. It's about $120 shipped for a 4'x4' sheet. I may split it with a friend. I would have it shipped tou partner and have him CNC the circles. Could you inbox me Also if you're interested in ordering together I would be. Thanks limpnoodle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 OK I figured out the name of the material. Fluidizing plate or fluidizing sheets. What's the best thickness. 3/16th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 7 hours ago, andy1976 said: OK I figured out the name of the material. Fluidizing plate or fluidizing sheets. What's the best thickness. 3/16th? The one I bought is 1/2" thick, works fine on some colors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I used the 3/16th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 The thickness and price suprised me, why so thick? Why so pricy? i use paper bag, that's thin so you can see why I'm lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 13 hours ago, Erick Darkman Prado said: The thickness and price suprised me, why so thick? Why so pricy? i use paper bag, that's thin so you can see why I'm lost Erik, I bought it years ago, when I had big problems with my white. The material even at 1/2" thick is very porous. With that said, I would not buy it again. It didn't help me with my white powder situation. I now have found the correct white that works in my Tyvek paper that I get free from the Post Office. Guys don't take may statement as offending anyone. I've looked high and low for a good white powder paint and it works for me. Sometimes you need the correct powder to work in your fluid bed. TJ's and many other guys use the white porous fluid bed board, so if it works for you by all means use it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Thank you, I too am having problems with white, can't stand it im back to dipping out of the jar cause the issues I'm having, the paints I've tried are Pro tech of course and Harbor freight, I'm considering Boss paints next 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Erick Darkman Prado said: Thank you, I too am having problems with white, can't stand it im back to dipping out of the jar cause the issues I'm having, the paints I've tried are Pro tech of course and Harbor freight, I'm considering Boss paints next Eric, PM me your e-mail, I have a lot of white. We can work something out if you are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Erick Darkman Prado said: Thank you, I too am having problems with white, can't stand it im back to dipping out of the jar cause the issues I'm having, the paints I've tried are Pro tech of course and Harbor freight, I'm considering Boss paints next In the past, I have battled with fluid bed media and trying to get everything just right to do a few jigs here and there. Just got tired of the battle and started looking for a vibrator that Would be cost effective and work with my fluid beds. I finally ran across one by accident and it has been great. Now I use about five layers of newsprint and this little vibrator tie wrapped to my fluid bed. It thumps pretty hard and will vibrate the fluid bed around if it's on a hard surface. I just place it on a shop towel. Now I never change filter media and just blow my cup out between color changes. Also, may I suggest Columbia Coatings for your powder. They manufacture great powder with many, many colors at a reasonable price. Here's a link to that little vibrator on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTA9WUR?psc=1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Hahn Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 22 hours ago, Erick Darkman Prado said: Thank you, I too am having problems with white, can't stand it im back to dipping out of the jar cause the issues I'm having, the paints I've tried are Pro tech of course and Harbor freight, I'm considering Boss paints next Erick: I also dip out of the jar. I just never fiddled around trying to build a fluid bed. I also use the pro tech paint and have found that if I stir it before dipping the first jighead and then stir it again after every 2-3 heads, it works fine. It seems that the trick is to keep the paint from getting too compacted and clumping on the head. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I was asked to post a pic of the little vibrator on a fluid bed. It's pretty Hi Tech:-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted February 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 On 2/26/2017 at 10:40 PM, Erick Darkman Prado said: Thank you, I too am having problems with white, can't stand it im back to dipping out of the jar cause the issues I'm having, the paints I've tried are Pro tech of course and Harbor freight, I'm considering Boss paints next Eric I get my powder from a friend at 5 dollars a pound. The white has never made volcanos on me. It's the best paint I've ever used. If you want some at my cost let me know. I also have clear which I love adding to other colors, brown, red, and mirror black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Hahn Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 13 hours ago, Apdriver said: I was asked to post a pic of the little vibrator on a fluid bed. It's pretty Hi Tech:-) Is that battery powered? Sorry, couldn't resist! (But hey, it might work!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I bought my fluidizing plate from an eBay vendor years ago. It came in 8"x8" sheets. I havent seen it listed there since though. I never clean my cups. I have one cup for each color in my heated shop. I cap each cup with a knockout test cap and never had an issue in several years of doing this. I have cups with fluidizing plate bottoms and some with tyvek or other membranes. Some are standard 3" diameter x4"tall cups for small stuff. Others are 12" tall x 2" diameter cups for long saltwater jigs. I did build a vibrating aluminum base to test using a small sander for vibration with spring feet. I wasn't sold on it but may try it again here soon. Maybe try some different ideas on using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I find the less powder I have in the cup, the more issues I have. You folks that use the vibrator stuff.....do you hook it up to a dimmer switch like you would see for a light? You could have good control with it that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 3/1/2017 at 11:05 AM, BLT said: I find the less powder I have in the cup, the more issues I have. You folks that use the vibrator stuff.....do you hook it up to a dimmer switch like you would see for a light? You could have good control with it that way. I might consider using a dimmer switch to control the vibration if I can figure out a simple and inexpensive way to make it work for me. I didn't have that on my first go around but could see the benefits. What I did was make a "T" out of some aluminum C channel and added spring feet. the front portion or top of the T held 2 fluid beds. The back or bottom of the T had a hand sander attached. It was a bit noisy and did not work quite like I had envisioned. Might be time to drag it back out and play with it some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I was told, long ago in a far off galaxy, that motors require a different dimmer than is used for lights Something about amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 hours ago, mark poulson said: I was told, long ago in a far off galaxy, that motors require a different dimmer than is used for lights Something about amps. You got me brother lol. I hate messing with electrical things. Don't know anything about your point, but that dimmer switch thing came to mind. I would think an electrical supply company would have something that wold work. You should have seen me trying to wire a train layout! Lights the size of a grain of wheat, counting how many there were and figuring out what resister to get.....no thanks! Glad my Daughter married an electrician last April! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 On 3/9/2017 at 10:21 PM, BLT said: You got me brother lol. I hate messing with electrical things. Don't know anything about your point, but that dimmer switch thing came to mind. I would think an electrical supply company would have something that wold work. You should have seen me trying to wire a train layout! Lights the size of a grain of wheat, counting how many there were and figuring out what resister to get.....no thanks! Glad my Daughter married an electrician last April! They do make different dimmers for motors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
