curtisb Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Am I the only one that has a problem getting them into the jig after painting? I am using Teflon pins when pouring, painting and baking. Thanks For Your Help! Curtisb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawkman Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 I don't make a lot of jigs at one time so this may or may not help. I put a skirt collar on the fiber weed guard and glue it in upside down, then cut off the fused end. The collar rolls off easily. This probably isn't a great solution if you're making a lot of jigs but I hope it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) I use the same process and yes, I have difficulties too. I'm producing only for myself and a few others. Nothing large scale. That said, what I do is prefit my weedguards first before I put in my glue. If it's too tight, I take out three strands. If it's a Fishing skirts weedguard, you can cut out three strands with a razor blade. If it fits without glue, it will fit with the glue because the glue will act as a liquid lubricant after you put it in place. If you need to take out a few more strands during the dry fit, no problem, do it. I rarely have to take out more than three though. Just my technique that's pretty simple. Edited March 3, 2017 by Apdriver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Hahn Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 I always insert the end of the weedguard into the jighead that is NOT fused, but has the loose ends. This way, it's easy to pull out a strand or three to make the weedguard fit into the head. Once I get the weedguard to fit, I put Super Glue Gel into the hole and insert the weedguard. Once the glue dries, try the fused end off of the weedguard and you're good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 I do the same as Apdriver, I prefit the weed guard before putting glue or epoxy into the base hole. One word of caution, they should be snug without being tight and angle means a lot, I found this out years ago. I was in a hurry and tried to get a weed guard into the hole and it was too tight, but before I pulled any strands off I angled the weed guard just a tiny bit toward the hook and it slipped right in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Dead Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 For what it is worth, my technique is: i use teflon pins as well. Once in awhile a weed guard is too big, I just swap for another and it usually fits. If not I insert the tip of my closed needle nose that opens the cured powder paint around the hole opening to allow for a tight fit. The glue acts as a lube as stated above. I found not all weed guards are the same and do not contain the same number of bristles. And the makers sometimes are color blind as there are variations on their shades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 I put them in like the other guys do, loose bristles in first. If the weedguard is too tight, just pull a strand off and stick it in, and it should work fine. If its still too tight take off another strand. pretty simple actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLS Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 I usually run hundreds of jigs at a time and take all of the weed guards to a bench grinder to remove the bur that makes it hard to insert some of them. It doesn't take but a second or so to roll each of them on the grinder and then they will slip into the jig with ease. I have a small cup holder set up that holds a small cup (a sauce/dipping cup like you would get if you wanted ranch dressing with your wing bite order) at an angle so my glue is pooled in the bottom. I put a dab of gorilla glue in the cup then dip my weed guards before inserting them (your just wanting a bit of glue on the end of the guard). I've been using this method for a while and do not miss fighting the guards. There is no need to worry about them sliding in to easy as the gorilla glue expands as it dries so the guards will end up locked in place. I use the same set up with a toothpick to put a speck of glue under all of the eyes that I glue in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig spinner Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Using a Dremel tool with 1/8 inch bit makes a clean hole to insert weed guards with out modifying the weedguard just a sm drop of glue and a push till you feel it pop in and your done. Safety note : hold jig in hand firm ,run tool on lower speed ,so it doesn't grab and spin your jig in your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 I use a cordless drill and 1/8" bit to drill out the holes after powder coating and baking. For me the drill is easier to control than a dremel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLS Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 If a bench grinder is not an option, a piece of 180 grit sand paper will work to remove the bur. Also started wondering, after my last post, how often you change out your teflon pins? Teflon pins are great but they do wear out and if not changed often enough, weed guards can be hard to install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 I probably need to order and cut some new Teflon rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 9 hours ago, JLS said: If a bench grinder is not an option, a piece of 180 grit sand paper will work to remove the bur. Also started wondering, after my last post, how often you change out your teflon pins? Teflon pins are great but they do wear out and if not changed often enough, weed guards can be hard to install. I have been using my teflon pins for 3 years, never had any issues and never changed any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 I've found the boss weed guards have a taper on the fused end and (almost) always slide in without any problem. It's been a while since I bought ant so I don't know if that's changed or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLS Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 10 hours ago, cadman said: I have been using my teflon pins for 3 years, never had any issues and never changed any of them. Where do you get your pins? Mine need changed every 200 jigs or so so that the weed guards aren't to hard to install and they actually start slipping out of the mold if I do not change them often enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saugerman Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 I do as Mark does, I use a cordless drill and an 1/8 inch drill bit. Works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, JLS said: Where do you get your pins? Mine need changed every 200 jigs or so so that the weed guards aren't to hard to install and they actually start slipping out of the mold if I do not change them often enough. I have been buying my pins from China. They are probably no different than yours. If the pins are too loose in the mold, clean the pins, and put some tape around one end. Then keep the end of the pin with the wrapped tape in the weedguards cavity (not the cavity where the hook shank sits). If they are still too loose, just wrap some more tape around it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EironBreaker Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 There is some variability with the fishingskirts.com guards. Sometimes you get a batch that slips right in and sometimes the fused end is a little to big. Usually if one is too big, the entire batch is too big. I use a Xacto knife to trim off a bit of the fused end and then they slip in easily. I use SuperGlue gel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfart9999 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I have a small hand drill, a chuck on a handle that I use when I cure the paint. I do each jig and it works well for me, only takes a few seconds each. I got my pins from Cadman, no problem with them. For 5/64 guards I cut some 5/64 drill rod to about an inch or so long, they pull out easily which makes it easy to do guards, I don't have to cast a jig with the guards in. Rodney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...