Nebraskalure Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Whats everyones opinion on best mix for senkos Like plastisol: soft - medium - hard or with hardner, how much salt per quart or garlic what seems to perform the best ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraskalure Posted March 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 i guess I should ask first what kinda plastisol everyone uses for senko Soft or medium I am assuming not hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassJunky Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 I'll be following this thread, doing my first senko pour tomorrow and trying to decide on him much salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 As Bob mentioned, you're gonna get a wide variety of answers here as I don't think I've seen the same recipe twice! I used 1/3 popcorn salt to MF super soft. I think you'll have to play around with it until you find what works best for YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraskalure Posted March 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 does anyone use medium for senko or stick baits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Hopefully, someone can chime in who uses a tougher plastic. Personally, I don't see it working all that well. Salt will make the bait hard and heavy, 'specially the amount of salt needed to match a Senko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 depends, i shoot all my sticks in medium, i want bounce in the bait, not a limp noodle like the yamy. personal preference i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POV_Fishin Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 I've used medium in the past and even hard, just messing around. Honestly it depends on how you rig it on whether the hardness plays a role. Oddly enough I found the softer stick baits lasted longer. By the way, if you're selling them don't label or advertise them as Senkos unless you're comfortable with getting a cease and desist from Gary Yamamoto as he owns the trademark for the name 'Senko'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 16 hours ago, Baitjunkys said: depends, i shoot all my sticks in medium, i want bounce in the bait, not a limp noodle like the yamy. personal preference i guess. I think this kinda depends on what part of the country you're from. Out here in the west, guys talk about a Yamamoto Senko being as hard as a rock. Personally, it's the hardest soft bait I've ever used (if that makes any sense.) Definitely not what I'd consider a limp noodle. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 when they have full droop after getting some sun, and throw off the hook. i call that a limp noodle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 53 minutes ago, Baitjunkys said: when they have full droop after getting some sun, and throw off the hook. i call that a limp noodle. Maybe it has something to do with humidity then because we don't have that problem. It gets VERY hot here, but humidity is minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttexas Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 I insert a snipped off piece of coat hanger wire to get the fall rate I like Just enough salt so they taste like salt/not plastic--maybe 2 tablespoons per cup of plastisol. Too much salt makes the plastic tricky to work with (reheating and pouring) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I read here years ago that the original GYCB ratio was 2 parts soft plastic to 1 part salt. I follow that formula, and get stick baits that weigh the same as the Senko. I switched to glass beads, same ratio, and just a tablespoon of salt for taste per cup to get stick baits that are more durable. I add a teaspoon of softener, too, because I like wiggle. http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-LBS-Glass-Bead-Medium-Grit-MIL-SPEC-8-70-100-grit-Sand-Blasting-Abrasive-/111672165459?hash=item1a002e0453:g:VocAAOxydgZTKU6c If I put an O ring 1/4" down from the nose, I can T rig one of my baits and pitch it back in the tulles all day, or until enough fish have eaten it to either break it at the hook, or make the plastic too shredded from burying the hook point to keep fishing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraskalure Posted March 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Thank you Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Nebraskalure said: Thank you Mark Just be sure you spray your injector tube with PAM before each batch, so you don't wind up scoring the inside from the blast medium. If it feels gritty, push the plunger out, and spray down the barrel, so the O ring on the plunger cleans the barrel on the way back in. I've been using the same injector O ring for years, and it's held up. I just have to take care of it. Bear in mind I'm just a hobby pourer, so I only do small batches for myself and a couple buddies. I have no idea what's involved with using my methods/materials for production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefraz44 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 On March 26, 2017 at 2:33 PM, alsworms said: I think this kinda depends on what part of the country you're from. Out here in the west, guys talk about a Yamamoto Senko being as hard as a rock. Personally, it's the hardest soft bait I've ever used (if that makes any sense.) Definitely not what I'd consider a limp noodle. lol I will have to back you up on that theory. Here in Ohio, we have some humidity, and I have noticed that my senkos are usually the most durable in the winter (not as much humidity) and less durable than certain stick baits, such as the Yum version in the summer months. It doesn't seem to matter to the fish, however. To me, this theory is very interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 I live in NoCal, use this in my 2/1 senko mix with soft plastic, a tbl. spoon/cup of salt, and a tsp. of softener, and my senkos are flexible and stronger than the original. http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-LBS-Glass-Bead-Medium-Grit-MIL-SPEC-8-70-100-grit-Sand-Blasting-Abrasive-/111672165459?hash=item1a002e0453:g:VocAAOxydgZTKU6c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttexas Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Another way to add weight to a senko without salt or metal is to use glass glitter. That stuff is heavy. You will end up with a lot of green pumpkin magic senkos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATFLATTIE Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 I use medium plastic and use 2 heapingtablespoons of salt per half cup of plastic and half tablespoon of softener. The sticks have good wiggle but are just like the original, useless after one fish. I've used the do it HDA and it's good for making a really durable bait, it just doesn't have the same wiggle as the ones I make with salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 17 hours ago, FATFLATTIE said: I use medium plastic and use 2 heapingtablespoons of salt per half cup of plastic and half tablespoon of softener. The sticks have good wiggle but are just like the original, useless after one fish. I've used the do it HDA and it's good for making a really durable bait, it just doesn't have the same wiggle as the ones I make with salt. The glass blasting medium makes them really tough, but not stiff. I add softener anyway, for more wiggle on the fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...