j.burch Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just wanted to say hello and that I'm new here. Been lurking in the shadows reading all the helpful tips and hints and gained a bunch of knowledge from you guys. I do have a couple of questions though. 1. I'm using MF colors and I'm following the cookbook recipe on here and it does not turn out the way it's supposed to be . I know that when I add the salt that I will need to add more coloring but I can't seem to get it right. For instance, when I try to make the Gary Yamamoto, watermelon with blue flake, it turns out more of an avocado with blue flake as soon as I add the salt. 2. Does adding salt make the senkos less transparent? 3. Should I get away from the MF color and go with the LC color? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallyc14 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) mine are made with mnf watermelon . It's the closest I can get to the real thing . My recipe is 4 oz soft plastic 2 tbl of flour salt and somewhere between 40 to 50 drops of colorant . However I have a pint of m n f watermelon drop count might be diff. Add blue flake to taste . Me , I like it really blue so I add a teaspoon or so of small blue flake. FYI it's also the base for yami watermelon seed, watermelon red and watermelon no flake. If you have the original you can hold it up in the light and see the color through the light it you match that with your bait you are making. Assuming all things being equal I.e. Your mold being Identical to the original your bait color will be close when you hold it in your hand. These are my humble opinions and tweeking it is part of the fun ! This is hands down one of my personal favs as far as color goes. But it would be doing you a great injustice if I didn't say that I have mixed that color strong and mixed it week and it still catches fish! Yes adding salt will make the color less transparent. Personally I like both of there colors Tight lines! Edited April 12, 2017 by wallyc14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.burch Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Thank you for the input! I am having to much fun doing this. I have nailed the black magic color and also the Gary Yamamoto, watermelon small. gold lg. black color. I have given away more than I've kept. Giving them to kids and friends is half the fun! I think for the most part of some of my trouble is that my OCD gets in the way cause I want it to be exact. Keep posting helpful tips. I learn a lot from this forum! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 There were many MF colors that I loved, but watermelon wasn't one of them. I used Lure Craft. That might change the outcome, but yeah.......as mentioned, salt it the culprit here as it will change the look of ANY color. I think you'll have to play around with it until you find what works best for YOU. Hats off, though, for using salt as a new pourer. I probably poured for 2 years before adding salt. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 41 minutes ago, alsworms said: There were many MF colors that I loved, but watermelon wasn't one of them. I used Lure Craft. That might change the outcome, but yeah.......as mentioned, salt it the culprit here as it will change the look of ANY color. I think you'll have to play around with it until you find what works best for YOU. Hats off, though, for using salt as a new pourer. I probably poured for 2 years before adding salt. lol I started using glass bead blasting medium instead of salt because it doesn't affect the color as much, and because it makes the senkos much tougher. I still use the 1 cup plastic/1/2 cup blasting medium that I used with salt, and I add a tblsp. of salt for flavor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Yep ut's very addicting & also fun. One thing about this site is that you can get some great help from some outstanding pouters that flat know their stuff. Welcome aboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.burch Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Thanks everyone!! Headed out to the shop right now to play around with it some more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 6 hours ago, mark poulson said: I started using glass bead blasting medium instead of salt because it doesn't affect the color as much, and because it makes the senkos much tougher. I still use the 1 cup plastic/1/2 cup blasting medium that I used with salt, and I add a tblsp. of salt for flavor. I bought some senko knock-offs from a guy on Ebay a couple years ago who swore they had glass beads in them. He even advertised them as such, but they didn't sink at all. I was sure either the dude didn't put them in or glass beads didn't work. If they work for you, I'm sure he just forgot to add them. I'll have to give 'em a second chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 hours ago, alsworms said: I bought some senko knock-offs from a guy on Ebay a couple years ago who swore they had glass beads in them. He even advertised them as such, but they didn't sink at all. I was sure either the dude didn't put them in or glass beads didn't work. If they work for you, I'm sure he just forgot to add them. I'll have to give 'em a second chance. Maybe hollow glass beads. Also called floating bubbles. I do that for some guys that want to weight one side only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Ahh makes sense. Thanks, Frank. I messed around with floating bubbles for a bit, but they didn't work out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixon529 Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/12/2017 at 10:19 PM, Frank said: Maybe hollow glass beads. Also called floating bubbles. I do that for some guys that want to weight one side only. Please excuse what may appear to be a stupid question, but why would you want only one side of a bait weighted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 11 hours ago, rixon529 said: Please excuse what may appear to be a stupid question, but why would you want only one side of a bait weighted? Thinking the same thing. I did some craws that had salt in just the body and the salt-less claws would float, but I'm not sure about half the bait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, rixon529 said: Please excuse what may appear to be a stupid question, but why would you want only one side of a bait weighted? Vertical presentation. Hook in the middle. Bounce it off the bottom. Do-It WNS-6-A Worm Nose Sinker Mold Edited April 15, 2017 by Frank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassHack Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 What does MF stand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dink Master Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 2 hours ago, BassHack said: What does MF stand for? Family owned and ran business since 1970 to current date with knowledge and expertise from beginning to end process of making finished products with all M-F soft plastic formulas throughout the 40 plus years in business. Liquid color formations also started in 1970 with only 6 unique colors available, 1 plastic formula with original handmade polyester resin open poured molds at this early stage in “pour your own worms”. Business was started in the 2 owner’s garage where the original name came from, Robert Maserang and Norman Fitzjarrald the business M-F Manufacturing was started. M= Maserang F=Fitzjarrald http://www.pouryourownworms.com/main.sc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...