mark poulson Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I just painted up a batch of 1/2 and 5/8 oz spinnerbaits with Createx, and top coated them with Sally Hansen Hard as Nails clear. l wiped the raw lead down with acetone before I painted, but the paint is still fragile. Is the a primer I should be using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Try self etching primer. Spray it on a clean poured jig. Make sure you cover or tape all the parts you do not want primed. The stuff in the store is a gray color and comes in a spray can. I tried to find it in white, but have not found any as of yet. I heard that some auto paint stores might have the etching primer in white. Let us know how it goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I use it on lots of stuff. Around here green is the general color that I find. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Get the mix additive also called "balancing clear". You mix it with the paint to get better adhesion, then clear coat with a 2 part epoxy, I know you like the clear nail polish but water based paint, even with a primer, is going to need something a little stronger than the clear nail polish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Thanks guys. I'll begin my search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 11 hours ago, cadman said: Try self etching primer. Spray it on a clean poured jig. Make sure you cover or tape all the parts you do not want primed. The stuff in the store is a gray color and comes in a spray can. I tried to find it in white, but have not found any as of yet. I heard that some auto paint stores might have the etching primer in white. Let us know how it goes. I found it at my local Home Depot. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 2 hours ago, smalljaw said: Get the mix additive also called "balancing clear". You mix it with the paint to get better adhesion, then clear coat with a 2 part epoxy, I know you like the clear nail polish but water based paint, even with a primer, is going to need something a little stronger than the clear nail polish. I am bummed that my nail polish won't work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Mark, I paint mine like you do and clear them with d2t. Just hang to dry. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Musky Glenn said: Mark, I paint mine like you do and clear them with d2t. Just hang to dry. Good luck. Glenn, I painted 10 baits with the Rustoleum etching primeron one side today, and tomorrow I'll do the other side. I would have painted both sides today, but I forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 So, I made a late night run down to the garage and painted the other side last night. This morning I brought one up to check it in the better light, and it looks good. The details in the spinnerbait head didn't get filled in. Even though I covered them with a piece of paper, I had a little overspray on the wire, but my fingernail got it off. It did stick pretty well. I left the overspray on the hook shank. Maybe it will make a good keeper! I am going to hand paint these, and then use the clear nail polish, because I want a test of the system. If it works okay, I'll be happy, since I enjoy the hand painting. I am not talented enough with an air brush to do fine detail work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 43 minutes ago, mark poulson said: So, I made a late night run down to the garage and painted the other side last night. This morning I brought one up to check it in the better light, and it looks good. The details in the spinnerbait head didn't get filled in. Even though I covered them with a piece of paper, I had a little overspray on the wire, but my fingernail got it off. It did stick pretty well. I left the overspray on the hook shank. Maybe it will make a good keeper! I am going to hand paint these, and then use the clear nail polish, because I want a test of the system. If it works okay, I'll be happy, since I enjoy the hand painting. I am not talented enough with an air brush to do fine detail work. Mark, I've had very good luck with etching primer, since I used it on powder paint. Once the etching primer grabs hold of the lead it holds really well. This was my experience with some trial and error I did. ** Spray on etching primer on a clean jig, very good adhesion and excellent coverage. ** Spray on etching primer on a clean jig and then bake the jigs, excellent to phenomenal adhesion. I went to strip it off with paint stripper, and it took 3 or 4 tries with 15 minute soaks each to remove the primer. I know you are not going to use powder paint, but once powder paint is applied over etching primer and baked, it really wears extremely well. Let me know how your painting holds up over the etching primer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, cadman said: Mark, I've had very good luck with etching primer, since I used it on powder paint. Once the etching primer grabs hold of the lead it holds really well. This was my experience with some trial and error I did. ** Spray on etching primer on a clean jig, very good adhesion and excellent coverage. ** Spray on etching primer on a clean jig and then bake the jigs, excellent to phenomenal adhesion. I went to strip it off with paint stripper, and it took 3 or 4 tries with 15 minute soaks each to remove the primer. I know you are not going to use powder paint, but once powder paint is applied over etching primer and baked, it really wears extremely well. Let me know how your painting holds up over the etching primer I'm going to throw one tomorrow. I should know pretty quickly how it holds up. Thanks for the tip! I'm going to bake the spinnerbaits I haven't painted yet, so that should really make the paint schemes tough. Edited April 18, 2017 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...