Sudd Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I'm a little concerned. I've made a paint booth out of a plastic tub and a bathroom vent fan. I use lacquer paints because I love those paints. My concern is spraying into that fan right where the motor is. I feel this is not safe, but I need to vent out those fumes somehow. My paint table is right in front of a small window. So it's real easy to just stick my vent pipe out the window. Any suggestions on if this is safe or any better SAFER ways I can do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Don't use that fan! That fan is not a sealed unit, intrinsically safe/explosion proof or fire proof. There are fans that are made for this. You can go for a long time with no problem or never. Then again one time would be too many times. Yep these fans cost more. One other thing, look at a filter before the fan and duct. Make it where you can change it out easily. The filter will help the life of your fan. Take a evening and read up and look at different types of booths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudd Posted September 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 3 hours ago, SW Lures said: Don't use that fan! That fan is not a sealed unit, intrinsically safe/explosion proof or fire proof. There are fans that are made for this. You can go for a long time with no problem or never. Then again one time would be too many times. Yep these fans cost more. One other thing, look at a filter before the fan and duct. Make it where you can change it out easily. The filter will help the life of your fan. Take a evening and read up and look at different types of booths. I just got a booth off of eBay, what would be the best to use until it arrives? My shop is only a 10x12 so I have to vent it somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) Can you put a portable fan in a window? Just make sure you keep an eye on it. It should be alright. The only reason that I'm like this is because of what I do and what I have seen. I'm going to bring up one more important apparatus, respirator since you use lacquer. Your family and you, your home are more important than taking a chance. Good luck & as said, tight lines! Edited September 30, 2017 by SW Lures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudd Posted September 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, SW Lures said: Can you put a portable fan in a window? Just make sure you keep an eye on it. It should be alright. The only reason that I'm like this is because of what I do and what I have seen. I'm going to bring up one more important apparatus, respirator since you use lacquer. Your family and you, your home are more important than taking a chance. Good luck & as said, tight lines! Yes I can set a fan right in front of the window. I use a respirator when I paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudd Posted October 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 If I put a furnace filter in front of that fan I put in my homemade booth and sprayed into the filter and let the fan pull it through and out the vent pipe, would that make it safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Sudd said: If I put a furnace filter in front of that fan I put in my homemade booth and sprayed into the filter and let the fan pull it through and out the vent pipe, would that make it safe? No the vapor from those chemicals is what is the hazard as recommended I would cease using that setup immediately and go with the fan in the window if the distance is not good enough with that I wouldn't even do that if you're wearing a respirator you should be fine for the few days it will take to get the right setup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudd Posted October 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, gone2long said: No the vapor from those chemicals is what is the hazard as recommended I would cease using that setup immediately and go with the fan in the window if the distance is not good enough with that I wouldn't even do that if you're wearing a respirator you should be fine for the few days it will take to get the right setup Ok thanks I will just set my reg box fan in front of the window blowing outward and wear my respirator. Don't want to blow anything up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 I would change your paint to a water base, I just don't see for the small guy that lacquer is that much better, to many down sides for me, health wise and safety. But if you must what the guys say above is 100% on. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) My bad, I was thinking of a homemade booth. Yep, you want it to go out with no restrictions using a fan. Edited October 1, 2017 by SW Lures Added to comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudd Posted October 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 6 hours ago, SW Lures said: My bad, I was thinking of a homemade booth. Yep, you want it to go out with no restrictions using a fan. So even with a portable fan in front of the window, I shouldn't put a filter over it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawjaBoy Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I'm in the process of designing a spray booth myself. There's a good chance I'll be using enamels on occasion and painting outdoors just ain't gonna cut it! My plan is to use a large furnace filter in the back of the booth and duct it out a window using a squirrel cage blower that came off of a fume hood in a college science lab. The squirrel cage is perfect as it has no electronics or wiring exposed to the fumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 No Sudd, you want to get it out away from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudd Posted October 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 2 hours ago, SW Lures said: No Sudd, you want to get it out away from you. Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 The key label you're looking for in an exhaust fan is "explosion proof". If it doesn't say that, don't use it. Bath fans are not explosion proof. Kitchen hood fans are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudd Posted October 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Why does most all paint booths you buy say do not use flammable materials? I mean if you're painting, some folks like me has to use lacquer isn't that the purpose of the booth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 And we haven't even mentioned the environment and the requirements to meet building codes. Meeting Codes make it possible to collect insurance when you burn something down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Sudd, these booths are for water base paints. Thats where you come in, you need to know what fits your needs. So many buys without reading up on what they are looking for or asking questions like you are doing. I'll tell you about something pretty slick that one person did in his booth too. This guy put thin aluminum sheets inside of his booth. This is for clean up in overspray that doesn't get out the exhaust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 i just read full post.you better listen to guys,even if many guys are using unsafe fan for enamel paint without problem.that's their problem,the worst thing is i think a Kitchener fan don't worth more than a non fire safe fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, ddl said: i just read full post.you better listen to guys,even if many guys are using unsafe fan for enamel paint without problem.that's their problem,the worst thing is i think a Kitchener fan don't worth more than a non fire safe fan Kitchen fans are designed to not provide a source of ignition, like a spark from a brush-type motor. I'm not electrical expert, but I do know this from years of doing residential construction. There is no such requirement for bath fans. Dryer vent fans are also explosion proof, because the lint from a clothes dryer can be set on fire or explode. You really do need to look for the "explosion proof" label to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 i've just read that my canister fan is thermally protected,what's that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudd Posted October 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) I know those booth says not for flammable materials, but why would they put a sparking motor in one? Also aren't those fans enclosed anyway in those booths? I've got one of those similar to the Master coming, and I want it to work for spraying lacquer or I've just wasted my money. Edited October 5, 2017 by Sudd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Sudd said: I know those booth says not for flammable materials, but why would they put a sparking motor in one? Also aren't those fans enclosed anyway in those booths? I've got one of those similar to the Master coming, and I want it to work for spraying lacquer or I've just wasted my money. I would call them and ask if their booth is save for solvent-based paints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 That is always the best thing to do. X2 Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 DDL, that refers to the motor overheating protection. Life of the motor is the protection, it's not about a sealed electrical motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
