ddl Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 does anyone use that sealer with such a small nozzle?i just have an eclipse hp-cs and was wondering what i can do.if it's too small what would be the cheapest iwata that would be able to well spray that sealer?i know that i can reduce it a lot but im kind of scared to ruin the sealer quality if i reduce it to much ,maybe im wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Contact the paint manuf., and ask them what's the best way to thin their sealer without losing it's film strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 they said it can't be used with a small needle ,it don't help much,for the thinning it's the 4012 but you can't thin it as much as you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'm guessing it's because the pigment particles are too big. When I'm priming with Wicked White, I thin with the 4012, and then pull the needle back an eight of an inch and lock it there before I start to paint. That opens the nozzle more when I actually start to spray the paint. That seems to let me shoot the bigger particles with my HP-C, which has a 3.5 needle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonah Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 You can always buy a bigger .5 nozzle. Remember to buy the .5 needle and nozzle cap too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 20 hours ago, Jonah said: You can always buy a bigger .5 nozzle. Remember to buy the .5 needle and nozzle cap too. Are all airbrush needles the same diameter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 The diameter is probably the same but the taper to get to that diameter may not be the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 21 hours ago, Jonah said: You can always buy a bigger .5 nozzle. Remember to buy the .5 needle and nozzle cap too. i think this is what 'i'll do or maybe i'll get a revolution .5mm all the needed things to convert my .35 will cost me around 60 so for just an extra 50 i can get another airbrush without the trouble to change everything when i switch from paint to sealer.now i just hope sutoborn sealer don't smell as bad as krylon fusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rui Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 21 hours ago, ddl said: i think this is what 'i'll do or maybe i'll get a revolution .5mm all the needed things to convert my .35 will cost me around 60 so for just an extra 50 i can get another airbrush without the trouble to change everything when i switch from paint to sealer.now i just hope sutoborn sealer don't smell as bad as krylon fusion Be careful when going to a bigger needle. Your compressor has to supply enough air to support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 my max is 55 psi so i think it will be enough ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rui Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, ddl said: my max is 55 psi so i think it will be enough ? In my experience if you get a max of 55 psi with a .35mm tip you will not get 55 psi with a .5 tip. Also, when you say 55psi is that what your compressor is rated to or is that what you have it set to while painting? This also is different. Edited October 11, 2017 by rui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 max compressor is 55 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Ddl, you might want to consider spray can primer if doing big muskie size lures, 2 coats of decent white primer and your done. Much quicker /easier and very effective for bigger lures...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 i just really hate the krylon fusion,it smell too strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 O.k fair enough. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 I use a .35 Revolution at about 40psi for Autoair sealers. I don't like thinning a sealer to much so the fusion is at the highest quality. The dry tip happens occasionally, but not enough to bother me too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rui Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Have you guys ever tried using Zinsser BIN primer? I cant say to much about it yet being i just started using it but it seems promising. It goes on thick, but dries nice and smooth to the touch within 20 minutes. Covers sealed or epoxied wood really nice and water based paint sticks well to it. It might be a little pricey thou. Edited October 12, 2017 by rui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 it's strange because createx site said small nozzle is no good for autoborn sealer but when i ask them a question they reply me the auto sealer is np for my .35 mm.then i ask them what's a small nozzle ,then she said i'll have to ask to a tech .i think their specialist are not that special lol btw what's the difference between auto born and auto air sealer ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 16 hours ago, gliders said: Ddl, you might want to consider spray can primer if doing big muskie size lures, 2 coats of decent white primer and your done. Much quicker /easier and very effective for bigger lures...... which brand did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Ddl, brands will be different for car primer here, I used good quality cellulose based primer with no issues, I use zinsser bin mostly now. I spray using a spray gun ,but comes in cans also. Rui- zinsser works well, though touch dry in 20 minutes , it reaches full cure after 1-3 days . Personally I only use on sealed wood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rui Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, gliders said: Ddl, brands will be different for car primer here, I used good quality cellulose based primer with no issues, I use zinsser bin mostly now. I spray using a spray gun ,but comes in cans also. Rui- zinsser works well, though touch dry in 20 minutes , it reaches full cure after 1-3 days . Personally I only use on sealed wood. Gliders, Sorry made a mistake when saying raw. Meant sealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, gliders said: Ddl, brands will be different for car primer here, I used good quality cellulose based primer with no issues, I use zinsser bin mostly now. I spray using a spray gun ,but comes in cans also. Rui- zinsser works well, though touch dry in 20 minutes , it reaches full cure after 1-3 days . Personally I only use on sealed wood. maybe i'll give a try to the can,is that the one B-I-N® Shellac-Base Primer ? there is a lot of bin.tks a lot sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rui Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, ddl said: maybe i'll give a try to the can,is that the one B-I-N® Shellac-Base Primer ? there is a lot of bin.tks a lot sir Yes, its a red can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 That's the one.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
