tukta Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 I've been using cement sealers for the past yr for clear coat and now no one is posting about using them .I've had no problem in the past yr with them,any problems that people have run into??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) I use AC 1315 sealer sometimes. The only problem I've had is that soft plastics melt the sealer if they stay in contact for more than an hour. I use clear nail polish for my rats where the soft plastic worm tails attach, and that acts as a barrier so I can still use the tails. Edited October 17, 2017 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osutodd Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) I still have some but I don't use it for top coat anymore. I have found that if I leave two baits coated in concrete sealer touching each other after a while they lightly stick together. My boat is kept in the garage, and it gets pretty hot out there in the summer, so that's part of the problem. But I had two others stick together over the winter as well. They were sitting in a bowl on the workbench for four or five months months. It's not a major sticking problem, but it's enough to keep them stuck together when picking one of them up. A light tug separates them, and it doesn't seem to leave a mark any more significant than a little flat spot. Just more than I want to deal with. Edited October 17, 2017 by osutodd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 11 hours ago, osutodd said: I still have some but I don't use it for top coat anymore. I have found that if I leave two baits coated in concrete sealer touching each other after a while they lightly stick together. My boat is kept in the garage, and it gets pretty hot out there in the summer, so that's part of the problem. But I had two others stick together over the winter as well. They were sitting in a bowl on the workbench for four or five months months. It's not a major sticking problem, but it's enough to keep them stuck together when picking one of them up. A light tug separates them, and it doesn't seem to leave a mark any more significant than a little flat spot. Just more than I want to deal with. I wonder if talc/baby powder would keep that from happening, like it does with rubber jig skirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 I no longer use it as a top coat either..but I do use it to seal my Baits before I start the painting process..Nathan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfrye37 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 What type of concrete sealer do you use to seal before painting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llokkii2000 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I have been using GST concrete sealer as a topcoat. Havent had any issue with it provided I let my baits dry completely before putting them in my tacklebox. Ive got lures I painted years ago that still look almost new with no yellowing. I do keep my tackle in the house when Im not at the lake, but I have all sorts of commercial baits mixed in with my own with no adverse effects. That said, the offgassing of the product is ferocious and you need a well ventilated area outside if you dip your baits. Drying time varies with humidity and temperature. Sometimes I put them on my turner for a few hours then transfer them to a drying rack and let them hang for a day or two.. If they seem to be drying slowly, I'll use a ceramic heater and a fan to help dry them out (but I try not to do this because I always worry about flammability issues. If I do resort to this, I keep a constant watch on them to make sure if anything happens, I can get the problem taken care of immediately) Also, it can cause wrinkles in some colors of paints, but I have been heat setting my paints now and keeping coats very thin and so far this is working.. Hope that helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 I am getting ready to test a couple lures an am thinking I could use the GST sealer before painting. Will water base paints be ok to use once I've used the GST since it is lacquer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llokkii2000 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 I have never tried that so I can't say for certain. I'd be a little concerned about the off gassing maybe screwing up the paint jobs after I put the paint on. If I were you, I'd try a different sealer on the lure before painting. Then, after the paint is on, only dip a small portion of the bait to make sure the gst reacts ok with it. Or better yet, find a bait you no longer use, paint it with the same colors you are using and then dip it in get to get an idea of how it will react with the cement sealer. Whatever you decide to do, feel free to post the results back here. I'm interested in how this turns out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...