Time Bandit Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 Anyone else ever notice that nearly all crawfish patterns on crankbaits are painted where the claws would be toward the bill of the lure? It seems odd to me, given that crawfish don't move very quickly going forward. Crawfish move much nearer the speed of a crankbait when they are going backwards, trying to evade a predator. Excepting Rebel and the Wee-R craw, I think maybe Live Target and Rapala are the only two companies that I've seen which offer crawfish patterns which are painted in what I think is the more natural orientation. I know fish can't reason, and I'm sure they aren't inspecting the lures and thinking to themselves "that crawfish is swimming the wrong way." All that to say, it's interesting to me the orientation of most craw patterns on cranks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 I’ve built and painted them both ways and it didn’t seem to make a difference when fishing them. My takeaway was that ultra realism is not the determining factor in getting what is usually a reaction bite. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 Your point is well taken, but actually it has been a trend that has gone both ways. I have baits with basic craw painting dating to the 70's (cannot remember the names and not on the lure), and some of them had the claws on the correct end. Others, well I suspect most lure paint schemes were done by artist in some factory in China and not by biologist of experienced fishermen. But, as you and Bob have pointed out, if it is a reaction bite, like most crank baits, it probably does not matter all that much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 I don't think the direction the bait's paint job is facing matters. An old Bomber 7A in a delta red pattern, with a one knocker rattle, still outfishes every other craw crank here on the CA Delta, when the crawdads are mating. It is painted "claws forward". I fish it slowly just above or through the grass, pausing to let it rise up a little when it hits a strand of hydrilla. The fish get a good look at it, and it still gets hammered on the pause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Bandit Posted October 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 hours ago, BobP said: I’ve built and painted them both ways and it didn’t seem to make a difference when fishing them. My takeaway was that ultra realism is not the determining factor in getting what is usually a reaction bite. I tend to agree. I've really gotten addicted to fishing crankbaits over the last year and I think the most important thing is to make the fish make a snap decision on whether or not to eat. I think they decide to eat much more often that not when it looks like a potential meal may be about to get away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 I designed one for Bass Pro a few years back that swims the right way. My prototype had soft plastic claws on it but they voted those down to simplify the manufacturing process. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) I made a few flat sided craw baits where I carved out indents for the body segments, painted “wrong way” forward. One of them is my all time best catching bait and I only use it when I really really need one. But I don’t think the look of the bait is the main attractor but rather its very staccato thump on the retrieve. As far as claws go, I’ve read that in a test with real crawfish, it was the craws with one or both claw arms removed that were eaten first. If we knew what bass will always do, it wouldn’t be much of a sporting pastime. Edited October 27, 2017 by BobP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD_mudbug Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 The Arbogast Mudbug, Megabait Yabby and Excalibur Xcs are painted in the ‘correct’ fleeing position with the crawfish tail painted toward the bill of the crankbait. The “Seein’s Believin” Mudbug colors have the crawfish tail fins painted right on the bill. The Yabby has attached free-swinging hard plastic claws at the rear of the bait and ridges on the body to simulate the different shell sections of a real crawfish similar to those on Hughsey’s lure. I also agree the claw position doesn’t matter. Most of the crankbaits of that type have such a tight wiggle that I think the bass get fooled by the action, vibration and general color scheme. When the bait is moving, a bass would have trouble seeing specific details. Instinct will dictate a strike or not. If the bait is being retrieved slowly or is stopped, and the bass could see the claw detail, and the bass could mentally process which end should be where, I can still reason claw position wouldn’t matter. A real crawfish can move forward and backward at a slow pace. I have watched crawfish slowly back away from the light of a flashlight. My best craw cranks, in order, are the Mudbug (correct), Bomber 6A (incorrect), Excalibur Xcs (correct). I cannot catch a bass on the Yabby which appears to be the ‘most correct’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 I do a lot of diving in the local lakes and rivers. Messing around in a local down town river I witnessed about a 3 lb smallie harass a crayfish for a while, paying no attention to me. I think the claws were his biggest concern. Eventually it was downed, but if I'm dropshotting a soft plastic, sometimes I will pinch the claws off on a tough bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxedStringer Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 On 10/26/2017 at 11:31 AM, Time Bandit said: Anyone else ever notice that nearly all crawfish patterns on crankbaits are painted where the claws would be toward the bill of the lure? It seems odd to me, given that crawfish don't move very quickly going forward. Crawfish move much nearer the speed of a crankbait when they are going backwards, trying to evade a predator. Excepting Rebel and the Wee-R craw, I think maybe Live Target and Rapala are the only two companies that I've seen which offer crawfish patterns which are painted in what I think is the more natural orientation. I know fish can't reason, and I'm sure they aren't inspecting the lures and thinking to themselves "that crawfish is swimming the wrong way." All that to say, it's interesting to me the orientation of most craw patterns on cranks. Yes, I have and also noted that the shrimp are the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazelflores Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 I think most crankbaits have the crawfish pattern painted with the claws toward the bill, even though crawfish move backward quickly when evading predators. I've also seen Live Target and Rapala offer more naturally oriented craw patterns , These fish likely aren't scrutinizing the direction of the crawfish, it's still intriguing to consider the design choices behind these lures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxedStringer Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 Welcome. You are right. I grew up in east Texas and lived in Alex, La. I have seen thousands of crawfish of every seasonal color. They walk forward and scoot backwards. Great bait and great for a Cajun meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdnoble84 Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 On 7/7/2024 at 1:48 PM, MaxedStringer said: Welcome. You are right. I grew up in east Texas and lived in Alex, La. I have seen thousands of crawfish of every seasonal color. They walk forward and scoot backwards. Great bait and great for a Cajun meal. I really dont feel like it matters much. A bass doesnt care which way a crawfish is swimming. Its a meal. I have caught fish on unpainted wooden cranks in testing also to suggest color doesnt even matter as much as action in many occasions. Crankbaits to me are about drawing a predatory response. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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