Character Lures Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Anyone know if kbs clear dip will puddle and bubble on spoon lures while being rotated while drying? Www.characterlures.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 I’ve used 3 brands of MCU but not KBS yet. All of them are prone to bubble if rotated because rotation, instead of allowing excess MCU to drip off the lure allows it to pool somewhere. As the solvent flashes off and forms a skin, the trapped pool of MCU remains liquid for too long and tends to wrinkle paint and bubble. I haven’t tried KBS and maybe it is less prone to do this but if it does, that’s why. When I paint spoons, I just hang them up to drip dry and that seems to work just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Lures Posted October 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Bob what dip Clear do you use if you don't mind my asking I need something really durable and currently I am using devcon 2 part epoxy 5 minute and it just to quick for 2 lures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Use the 30 minute D2T it not only has a longer pot life it is water proof. The 5 minute D2T in water resistant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Lures Posted October 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 What is D2T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 D2T is short for Devcon Two Ton epoxy. I suggest not using any quick cure epoxy including Devcon 5 minute version because it cures too fast, will not level out very well and it quickly turns an ugly brown from UV exposure. You want slow cure epoxy for topcoating lures. Truth be known, I don’t like epoxy on metal spoons because it draws away from the sharp edges of a spoon as it cures and will chip off much more quickly than alternatives like MCU. A lot of guys like KBS Diamond Coat MCU. It seems to work well and is reportedly less sensitive to moisture curing in the storage can than others. But I haven’t gotten around to trying it yet. What I am using right now is Dick Nite S81 Fishermun’s Lurecoat MCU, which is sold to TUers at a discount by Dick Nite, whose main business is commercially manufacturing spoons. Before jumping into any MCU, you should search the site and read up on best storage and application techniques. It can be tricky to use and store but once you have it down, it is hands down the best topcoat for spoons. Thin, factory-look, super durable, and non yellowing. I use the “Tap the can” storage method, quickly flood coat lures with a brush, and hang them up to drip dry. Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Lures Posted October 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 BobP thank you for the info man CharacterLures@gmail.com is my email... If you can email me in case for future questions I may have would be awesome man Tha k you I'll have a look at the nite clear for sure thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Dick Nite has a special web address for TU members to get the discount. I don’t have it here on my IPad but someone can supply it. KBS Diamond is sold by various auto sites including JEGS at competitive prices. No kidding about reading up on storage and application techniques. MCU has a tendency to harden in the can pretty quickly from moisture contamination and it is frustrating to pay $50 for a quart of MCU and have to throw away most of it in a few months! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Lures Posted November 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 If anyone can post the website for TU members would be appreciated... I appreciate the heads up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 http://www.dicknite.com/TU_Lander.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Lures Posted November 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 Thank u bob I'll have a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdmh Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Just wanted to throw my $0.02 in. I just tapped my first can of KBS diamond top coat. I have been using etex for two years with pretty good results. If the mixture if off just a little bit or temperature in the room changes, I might not get a good cure. I also have to turn every lure after painting on the etex. It takes almost as much time as painting does. I decided to try KBS after asking with some other painters in my area. First impression, quick process, quick cure, horrible fumes. I will have to do some time of ventilation in my lure room. In the North Dakota winters, I will expect the room to cool of very quickly, unfortunately. I won't be afraid to switch my entire process over to KBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Lures Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Drdmh your 2 cents are appreciated... Any issues with bubbling at all? And did you have to turn the lures after dipping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 like bob said 5 min epoxy is a big no no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdmh Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) no bubbling on the first pass. I hung around a bit to dab the glob of clear off the nose of my lipless baits. I was satisfied enough that I ran 3 dozen baits through this morning. I didn't turn these at all per recommendation. It's when you have excess material in one spot that you'll get bubbling. Edited November 3, 2017 by drdmh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Lures Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Drdmh thank you as well for the info... I think I know the route to go... Ddl thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Lures Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Do u guys know if your able to mix glitter into the KBS to add that effect to the lures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBee Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I'm not sure abiut KBS as I've never used it but I've experienced no issues with glitter and Dick Nites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Lures Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Anyone know of good UV PAINT AND UV CLEAR COAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Lures Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I use gliter in different sizes with KBS. I "tap" over a uncured (clear) lure then put another coat after allowing the first to cure. All lose falls off, then the second coat. You can do this on a regular color paint also. D2T does not like hard edges if no one has stated that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Lures Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 SW lures thank you I actually use D2T and mix in extra fine glitter then apply it.. Works well for me... But thank you for the trick with KBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...