txmedic033 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 I am wanting some harder plastic for crappie baits. I add a bunch of hardener to my plastic, but I am wondering who makes the toughest stuff out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 MF saltwater should do what you want... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, CNC Molds N Stuff said: Depends on what you want to do with it, and if you want to limit yourself to plastisol or not. Urethane and latex rubbers are pretty tough if the thickness is up. Some silicone compositions are pretty tough. Nailed that on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txmedic033 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 I use MF saltwater and still add a bunch of hardener to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txmedic033 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Say I wanted to use some of those in injection molds. Which ones would I use and where would I get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, txmedic033 said: Say I wanted to use some of those in injection molds No, probably not, they are all pourable but take some time to cure. Do you have a specific size and shape or color requirements. For example, https://www.makelure.com/store/p/943-Flex-30.aspx Tough, but you either need to warm the mold or it needs to have some thickness. Also, it is an amber color so tinting will take a little work to tint around. I would think curly tails are out, but maybe paddle tails. I have had some luck with this, but it took some learning. Another option, and it will cure even if thin, is this one: https://www.alumilite.com/store/p/1081-TRANS-40-Translucent-Silicone.aspx Very tough, still has some flex, some milky color but translucent. You are not making curly tails out of this. LOL The solfest silicone is the following:https://www.alumilite.com/store/p/921-Alumilite-s-High-Strength-3.aspx Very tough, flexible, but again, no curly tails. Also, this one has a pink tint without adding color, but I have had discussions with the maker and if the amount you ordered was large enough they could make the catalyst, which adds the pink, without the tint which is used to help you make sure it is mixed. All of these take time to mix, but I have used the first and last in test lures. I made a leach pattern out of the Flex and I do real copy tails and fins form the HS3. But, I am a Hobby lure maker, I can take the few to several hours for it to cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txmedic033 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 I think I'm going to stick with plastisol. I'm mainly making crappie baits that don't need to be soft and I'd just like them to be tougher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Yep, for now, Plastisol is best for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Spikeit has one that is extra hard (40d) that works well, to hard for most of what I do but it is the hardest one I have used without bench mixing one. Might give it a try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...