ScottV Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I own the smaller version Do-It mold for the Herring Head Underspin jigs. They require the WEY375 wire form for attaching the blade assembly. The last wire forms I got from Barlows Tackle were a silver, instead of a black color. They won't fit my mold either. I've emailed Do-It without any response. Has anyone else had problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I've never seen black ones before, only silver. If they are truly Do-It wireforms, just call Do-It up and explain to them the problem. You will speak with an engineer, and get his e-mail as well. It would also be helpful for them if you send some pics of what the problem is. Anytime I had any problems with Do-It products, I received phenomenal customer support. There was also a thread on here, where one of TU members posted instructions on how to modify your own and get two for the price of one. I'll see if I can find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottV Posted February 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Thanks Cadman. I think Do-It may have just made a bad batch of wire forms. I ordered some more from a different online supplier where I'd gotten good ones before. The forms I'd been using for about a year had a gunmetal, dark color to them and they would stay in place in my mold. These I got recently were an aluminum color and wouldn't stay in place in my mold. I'l call Do-It tomorrow. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I use the Do-It lead spoon form (HM-34 I think) cut them in half then put a bend on the cut end to hold it way better than the Do-It wires . However you will need to do some measuring . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottV Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Thanks Toadfrog, I just ordered 100 of the hammered spoon wire forms from Do-It. I'l give them a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Your welcome. I got pretty sick of those Do-It wires being loose .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottV Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 I've been in contact with an engineer with Do-it about the WEY375 wire forms and he's been very interested in my problem. Here's a picture I emailed him showing the newer form on the left and the older form, which fits my mold, on the right. There's obvious differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 8 hours ago, ScottV said: I've been in contact with an engineer with Do-it about the WEY375 wire forms and he's been very interested in my problem. Here's a picture I emailed him showing the newer form on the left and the older form, which fits my mold, on the right. There's obvious differences. You can also send him a few, and they will take care of it for you. They have always done right by me. Just make sure that those are actual Do-It wire forms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 That style will still get loose in the head . Needs to just be an elongated S hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottV Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 I'm gonna try to cut these forms and see if they'll work for me. I'l try a circular bend to hold it in the head better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Given the price difference I thought it was worth the trouble. Plus if you ever hang the blade on something you will more than likely get loose without loosing the blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Last year I posted a tutorial with pictures about this issue. Use the Spoon Wires and cut them all in half (doesn’t need to be exact) with a side cutters. After you put your hook into the mold, lay the wire into place with the gap in the hoop facing forward. Where the wire meets (crosses) the hook, touch and leave a mark on the wire with a Sharpie. Remove wire, and at the mark, bend the wire 90 degrees (or a bit more) down with your pliers. Then snip off enough so that the wire sets flat against the hook and the mold closes properly. This keeps that wire secure in the jig, unlike the WEY375 wire. After painting the jig, the swivel split ring slides on easily and a quick pinch closes the gap in the hoop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottV Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Thanks for your input on this guys, but I'm a little confused. Here's a pic of the Do-It spoon wire form and the WEY375 wire form. The loop end is way too large to fit in my mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottV Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 I ordered the spoon wire forms from the Do-It website. They only gave me one option on the size, so of course I got the wrong one. I now see in their catalog they have two sizes of the spoon forms. They must be out of stock on the smaller size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 The only difference is the length. The loops are the same size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 no, I’m pretty sure the hoops are different sizes with respect to being thicker wire. The smaller ones fit the mold. I have some big wires for spoons that don’t work in that mold. Dont get discouraged, Scott. I’ve made hundreds of them. Best blade size, for 3/8 & 1/2 oz is 3.5 willow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottV Posted February 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 Thanks guys, I ordered the smaller sized spoon forms from Barlows. I use the process of elimination to solve a lot of problems it seems. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, ScottV said: Thanks guys, I ordered the smaller sized spoon forms from Barlows. I use the process of elimination to solve a lot of problems it seems. Lol In my lure making that is called the Scientific Method! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrydabassman Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Just getting into this and have the same problem! So which wire form is the smallest? HS-34 or HS-100 ? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 HS100 is the biggest and the one you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
