richg99 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Howdy. First post. I read the Locked thread about PVC. I see that my local Lowes offers both Azek and Choice Dek. The Choice Dek is in stock. The Azek has to be shipped in and seems to only be available as a sample board. Does anyone know if the Azek and the Choice Dek are similar enough to be used as suggested in the Locked Post? thanks richg99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I don't know if the Choice Deck is light enough to be buoyant. Maybe you could ask them for a small cutoff to use for testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I picked up samples of Choice Deck. I'll mess around with them soon and report back. Richg99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I brought a couple of samples of the Lowe's Choice Deck home. I cut a 2 x 3 inch chunk off and dropped it into a large glass. It sunk, slowly, to the bottom. I have no idea if this is a good thing or a bad thing. How does that compare to the Azek product? richg99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Its a bad thing. You want it to float. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 16 hours ago, richg99 said: I brought a couple of samples of the Lowe's Choice Deck home. I cut a 2 x 3 inch chunk off and dropped it into a large glass. It sunk, slowly, to the bottom. I have no idea if this is a good thing or a bad thing. How does that compare to the Azek product? richg99 Go online, and check which big box stores, like Lowe's and Home Depot, carry Azek. I order mine online from Home Depot, and they deliver it to my local store free. The sizes are limited on their site, so I get the smooth surfaced trim board, and laminate two pieces if I want thicker matl. PVC pipe glue and clamps make a really good bond, as long as you make sure the two surfaces are flat by sanding them first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Well, thanks....however, I may have found an "in-store-stocked" solution. Since I don't intend to make more than a few baits for my personal use, an in-store item helps. I already had a piece of 1x2 PVC trim from Lowes in my shop. It was hidden in the rafters. I cut a 3-inch piece off and dropped it into a container of water. It floated....maybe better than a bobber! Lowes carries a number of different widths and lengths of Royal PVC. I'll experiment with the 4-foot length that I already own, and report back. Thanks for all of the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, richg99 said: Well, thanks....however, I may have found an "in-store-stocked" solution. Since I don't intend to make more than a few baits for my personal use, an in-store item helps. I already had a piece of 1x2 PVC trim from Lowes in my shop. It was hidden in the rafters. I cut a 3-inch piece off and dropped it into a container of water. It floated....maybe better than a bobber! Lowes carries a number of different widths and lengths of Royal PVC. I'll experiment with the 4-foot length that I already own, and report back. Thanks for all of the help. That's great! And it gives me another option, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 "Another option". Yep. That's why I enjoy these sites. I learn something every day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Wow, this material sure cuts and sands easily. It has a rough finish where I used the belt sander. My belt sander has an 80 grit belt in it right now. I have a luncheon appointment, but afterward will switch to a nearly worn out smooth belt and see what happens. I'm impressed! richg99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdatwe Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 wonder why PVC board floats and PVC pipe doesn't ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) I can say that the PVC board appears to be infused with air. i.e. it is a much lighter material. Almost too porous to hold a thread from an eye hook. I intend to do some testing. Might be that epoxy will fix any issue. Edited February 14, 2018 by richg99 Add words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Coming along. Tomorrow, hooks, weights and a trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Brick Mold (trim) comes in a thicker dimension that works good for musky lures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Thanks. I was going to groove two halves of the 1x2 material for a through-wire and then glue them together with PVC cement. That should give me some thickness ...and...make the through- wire easy to do. Anyone else doing their PVC lures that way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killntime Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 I too use pvc trim from lowes. It only requires about half the ballast of balsa. I just epoxy twisted wire line ties and hook hangers in and have had no issues (pike and steelhead) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saugerman Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Welcome to the forum, Richg99, and killntime, always glad to see new members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Killntime.. so, I presume you do NOT use threaded eyehooks? I thought I'd buy some, but if twisted ties are the best, I'll try that. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 3 hours ago, richg99 said: Killntime.. so, I presume you do NOT use threaded eyehooks? I thought I'd buy some, but if twisted ties are the best, I'll try that. thanks The Azek trimboard I usually use is strong enough to hold screw eyes, provided I drill a small pilot hole, and, after I've run the screw in and back out again, coat the threads with gap filling super glue before I run them back in again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killntime Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 I use .032 stainless lock wire just twisted,( about 1/2 " or so long finished shaft) then drill 1/16" hole and shoot etex in hole with syringe and push in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Thanks guys. Mark, would you mind sharing the length and size of the screw eyes that you are using? My target species would be 30 / 40 lb Stripers and Muskies. The one I did today I used twisted wire. Rich Edited February 17, 2018 by richg99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 17 hours ago, richg99 said: Thanks guys. Mark, would you mind sharing the length and size of the screw eyes that you are using? My target species would be 30 / 40 lb Stripers and Muskies. The one I did today I used twisted wire. Rich http://www.lurepartsonline.com/Online-Store/Screw-Eyes/-092-Magnum-Screw-Eyes.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Mark, when I go to that site, it lists about five choices. From 3/4 inch to over 2 inches. What length did you use, please? My lure height is about 2 inches. Do you bury the eyehook as deep as you can? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg99 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Never mind. After looking at the picture, I see that the threads go all of the way up. I just ordered the two inch size and I can cut them down as needed. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 47 minutes ago, richg99 said: Never mind. After looking at the picture, I see that the threads go all of the way up. I just ordered the two inch size and I can cut them down as needed. thanks. Rich, when I run the screw eye back in, after it's been coated with super glue, the squeeze out of glue forms a kind of a faring around the eye. I leave that to lock the screw eye in place. I've never had a screw eye move, or unscrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
