solder or weld an hook?

[ddl]

guys

is that possible to weld a lil eye at the shank of an hook? looking for something esox proof. looking for the best hook material for something strong

thanks

Edited March 19, 2018 by ddl

[Anglinarcher]

I won't say welding is not possible, but the higher heat of welding normally removes the temper from the hook.  This will leave the hook so soft that it is not hardly a hook anymore.

On the other hand, I once, as a youngster, heated hooks to bend them into a jig hook, then dunked them in oil, to retemper them.

Soooooo, in theory, you could weld the hook and then retemper them.

Again, lots and lots of theory.

[ddl]

larry dalbergh friend was doing it with something that was like a lazer,i have no idea what it was vid is at youtube i'll try to find it

[Anglinarcher]

I talked to Larry several years ago about that and it was a friend that did it for him.  If I recall, it was a quick release hook he worked on.  I think he showed the hook on one of his HUNT FOR BIG FISH shows.

The Laser welding concept would work, but it is not an inexpensive way.  It focuses the heat in such a small area that the whole hook does not get hot.  So, I guess that Larry proved it could be done.

I have contracted some Laser welding to be done in years past for specialized construction work and I sure could not afford it for myself.  LOL

 

[ddl]

thanks.i think it was that show.it look like it will not be an easy one

[Anglinarcher]

3 hours ago, CNC Molds N Stuff said:

To my knowledge, heating and then rapid cooling in oil is known as heat treating and the specific act of dunking in oil is called quenching.

Yes, I believe you are correct.  I used the wrong term.  

[Anglinarcher]

3 hours ago, CNC Molds N Stuff said:

An alternative to solder with no heat might be to use the wrapped wire method described above and then glue it with something like JB-Weld or PC7

I tried this with a two part epoxy I really liked in the 90's and it worked great, until It got cold.  Then the stuff just got brittle and crumbled.  I never tried JB-Weld and I have never used PC7, but ......... if they hold up to the temperatures, this might be an excellent idea.

I cannot remember the epoxy I used now but I recall it coming in a white box with yellow and red writing on it.  I have not seen it in years.  I used it to make some ice fishing jigs.  They were one fish wonders.  LOL  Always came up with the hook and fish but not the ice blade.

[Anglinarcher]

I know that soldering a hook to ice jigs/blades was done.  I use to buy some Mora Swedish Ice jigs for ice fishing in the 80's but the hook was so soft that they did not hold up.

I agree on the epoxy problems.  Just went to ACE Hardware and their wall was covered with 60 second epoxy (seriously?), 2 min, 5 min.  Had to go two two different stores to find the Devcon 2 Ton which is still not as slow as the stuff from the 80s and 90s.

Sure, I agree, we all want fast, but there is a good use for the slower stuff as well.

3 hours ago, CNC Molds N Stuff said:

Also the hook flexes even at what we consider low temperatures.  A straight glue up probably would not hold up as well as a wrap. 

Yep, had not thought of that.