thesheriff1 Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Guys - I have been making some lures with Glitter layered into the epoxy for some time now, and keep running into a problem with "pinholes". I'd best explain it as small parts of glitter that I can't get fully covered in epoxy, and then when I paint over them they show as a small bump. I've tried to smooth them out, and even shave them off with little luck. I have just kept layering epoxy over until smooth, but then run into a bait that has 7+ coats of epoxy and I think that's a little excessive. I'll try and get a picture after work... What is the best way to get rid of/avoid these?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) I apply a coat of water based clear on the lure and then sprinkle the flake on while it is still wet.Let the water base dry and then apply epoxy top coat. I don't mix the flake with the epoxy. Edited April 10, 2018 by Hughesy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheriff1 Posted April 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 I've been sprinkling the glitter onto a half cured coat of epoxy and smoothing with my finger, if that helps clarify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 I use .008 glitter. I mix a tiny bit into the Bob Smith 30 min and brush on one coat. Perfectly smooth and no pin holes when dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 I brush the glitter in a clear acrylic latex. Brushing makes the glitter lay down and lets me put the amount I want where I want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 5 hours ago, thesheriff1 said: I've been sprinkling the glitter onto a half cured coat of epoxy and smoothing with my finger, if that helps clarify It may very well be the oils on your finger. Have you tried wearing nitrile gloves when you do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benton B Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Flex coat makes a glitter to mix with the rod finish and it's ultra fine. I mix in the first clear coat and it's pretty smooth when cured but then I do a 2nd coat and it's perfectly smooth. It might be the size of glitter you are using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 17 hours ago, thesheriff1 said: Guys - I have been making some lures with Glitter layered into the epoxy for some time now, and keep running into a problem with "pinholes". I'd best explain it as small parts of glitter that I can't get fully covered in epoxy, and then when I paint over them they show as a small bump. I've tried to smooth them out, and even shave them off with little luck. I have just kept layering epoxy over until smooth, but then run into a bait that has 7+ coats of epoxy and I think that's a little excessive. I'll try and get a picture after work... What is the best way to get rid of/avoid these?? try smaller glitter, I use extra fine and smaller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 What MonteSS said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePaintsBaits Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 I'm thinking size of glitter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saugerman Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Glitter size x2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 I agree with the size of the glitter as well. Sometimes I apply a thin coat of epoxy and sprinkle different colors in different areas. You can then get it to lay down with a disposable brush by poking it down. Hand sanding that coat after full curing removes bumps or protruding glitter. It will get scratched up, but the second coat of epoxy will clear it right up. Hope you can use some part of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblue2 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, Chuck Young said: I agree with the size of the glitter as well. Sometimes I apply a thin coat of epoxy and sprinkle different colors in different areas. You can then get it to lay down with a disposable brush by poking it down. Hand sanding that coat after full curing removes bumps or protruding glitter. It will get scratched up, but the second coat of epoxy will clear it right up. Hope you can use some part of this. how would glitter from dollar tree work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, bigblue2 said: how would glitter from dollar tree work It is the size, not the source that matters. I have seen different sizes from Dollar Tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblue2 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, Anglinarcher said: It is the size, not the source that matters. I have seen different sizes from Dollar Tree. yes I mean sizes of glitter is important I will check out when I go to dollar tree next time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastman03 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 I mix my extra fine glitter into my envirotex before I apply it. Then put it on the lure and spread it out with a brush, just the same as if there were no glitter. Extra fine glitter is the way to go (thanks Martha Stewart lol), and definitely sand it all smooth and flat after that layer. It looks all scratched up, but the next layer (or 2) of clear etex with make it look great. Also, do not touch with bare hands! I have learned the hard way there. No skin oils right from when you are ready to start the finishing process until its a lure, keep it clean and wear gloves. The only thing with my method is that glitter is going on the entire lure, not just the sides or where you want. So, I will also be experimenting with some of these other methods. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 I use the 12 variety pack of glitter at Walmart in the 1-1/4" (guessimate) tall salt shaker dispensers. I have no idea what size it is. But you likely have one near you and that will give you a reference. I would not go any bigger than that. I also ordered some holographic and holographic chrome nail powder in .004". It has not come yet. You can apply that to tacky epoxy with a makeup brush. Or you can mix it in with the epoxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 When i do the sprinkling thing, the epoxy is wet, just applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishCandy Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Hey Chuck, lemme know how that holo nail powder works out. I experimented with some of it for bucktails, but wasn't really happy with it. Too much work when I can just powder coat. I have to use the stuff for something, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishCandy Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Oh, by the way. Don't try that holo powder on top of cured epoxy. It doesn't work. I think the epoxy is too hard a finish. The powder needs a softer surface to bite into and stick, so you can burnish it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 6 hours ago, FishCandy said: Hey Chuck, lemme know how that holo nail powder works out. I experimented with some of it for bucktails, but wasn't really happy with it. Too much work when I can just powder coat. I have to use the stuff for something, though... I use the holo nail powder, it works like super fine glitter when suspended in epoxy, you can use it with nail polish for the holo look but I find it difficult to get the whole bait done before it finishes tacking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliders Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 I also use half cured epoxy method ,either lightly sprinkled or completely covered. Can't put pic's on here,will put in gallery if someone wants a look. Like A.A said,I'd be wary using your finger to smooth out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishCandy Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 I may have to try some of that nail powder in clear medium and spray through an airbrush. Might make a nice scale pattern... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 It should spray real nice mixed with a transparent base. I noticed scales mainly have that holo effect on the very edges. So maybe a forward angle through a scale mesh would imitate that. As for the other pointers, they are much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Ron Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 I use Martha Stewart brand glitter for my cranks and plastics If u brush on your epoxy mix in the flakes prior to stirring. Paint on As normal Second layer of epoxy no glitter and u shpould b set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
