dpfishing Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 12 hours ago, 21xdc said: Marine applications are sprayed with thin coats needing more of them. Dipping or brushing one coat is probably equivalent to more than spray coats. Perfect. Thank you! That’s for the instructions also. I never did read them on the can. Just ripped the lid off and then can went into the trash. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpfishing Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Hughesy said: Well I'm pretty sure that color shift is only painted over a smooth black base coat and no normal paint should be applied over it or you will lose some or all of the shift. With KBS, I always use 2 to 3 coats. The directions say for marine application 3 coats are required. Thanks for the input. Yeah, I did read some where about a black base coat. I did get a great affect though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreate Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/15/2018 at 5:36 PM, Chuck Young said: Color shifting is a very attractive quality in a bait. I feel it touches more "trigger points". It occurs naturally in baitfish. The more 3-D the finish on your bait, the more effective the color shift will be. Certain foils can also be applied to accomplish a color shift. I think I am with Hughsey on this one. If you want color shifting qualities - go all out. The per bait cost is a few cents . Totally agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreate Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/19/2018 at 2:53 PM, 21xdc said: I only coat blade baits 1 time.... Many topwater and cranks once. Some that may get beat up I would apply 2 coats. Thank you very helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreate Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/19/2018 at 2:59 PM, 21xdc said: Marine applications are sprayed with thin coats needing more of them. Dipping or brushing one coat is probably equivalent to more than spray coats. Gotta agree with you on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreate Posted October 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 8/19/2018 at 2:53 PM, 21xdc said: I only coat blade baits 1 time.... Many topwater and cranks once. Some that may get beat up I would apply 2 coats. Thank you!! Need this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 we have used the shift paint. thinned with water. sprays well for base ,not great for fine details. .results look cool. going to ask some muskies next. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 The first time I used Future floor shine to thin paint, I cleaned the front of the brush well but left some paint in the Teflon needle packing that prevents paint from migrating into the back of the brush. A week later it took a good hard pull with pliers to get the needle unstuck. If I remember, Future directions say that it requires a special cleaning agent containing acetic acid to remove it from a floor. So it may be water soluble but when dry, that is apparently not the case. It does act as a good flow enhancer and it can be a good clear barrier coating between paint and MCU topcoats if you have had paint wrinkling problems. But like most things there ain’t no Free Lunch. You also don’t want to thin a whole bottle of paint with it. It can cause the pigment to precipitate into a hard plug that is impossible to remix. That’s my experience with Future. You may use it and love the stuff, never had a problem. But I did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreate Posted October 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 7 hours ago, BobP said: The first time I used Future floor shine to thin paint, I cleaned the front of the brush well but left some paint in the Teflon needle packing that prevents paint from migrating into the back of the brush. A week later it took a good hard pull with pliers to get the needle unstuck. If I remember, Future directions say that it requires a special cleaning agent containing acetic acid to remove it from a floor. So it may be water soluble but when dry, that is apparently not the case. It does act as a good flow enhancer and it can be a good clear barrier coating between paint and MCU topcoats if you have had paint wrinkling problems. But like most things there ain’t no Free Lunch. You also don’t want to thin a whole bottle of paint with it. It can cause the pigment to precipitate into a hard plug that is impossible to remix. That’s my experience with Future. You may use it and love the stuff, never had a problem. But I did. Great feedback!!!! Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Young Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 I bought some of the Folk Art stuff because it was cheap and available. I have used it on a few applications. Color shifting may be an exaggeration. But it does fade at certain angles. I found it useful as a highlight color on fish like smelt or American Shad. It worked at pressures below 20 PSI when reduced. But I will probably be buying a higher quality paint in the near future . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreate Posted November 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 7:25 PM, Chuck Young said: I bought some of the Folk Art stuff because it was cheap and available. I have used it on a few applications. Color shifting may be an exaggeration. But it does fade at certain angles. I found it useful as a highlight color on fish like smelt or American Shad. It worked at pressures below 20 PSI when reduced. But I will probably be buying a higher quality paint in the near future . Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtranger Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 If you search "Didspade" on amazon you can get a variety of 5g samples packs (they make approx. 9 oz.). I had a couple bottles of Createx clear coat that I mixed them into and had real good results. The attached picture is 3 or 4 light coats of "riddler" sprayed over black sealer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Wow. That's a single color? Looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM Hevi Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 hours ago, mtranger said: If you search "Didspade" on amazon you can get a variety of 5g samples packs (they make approx. 9 oz.). I had a couple bottles of Createx clear coat that I mixed them into and had real good results. The attached picture is 3 or 4 light coats of "riddler" sprayed over black sealer. Is this the new Predator RK 55 or from the old manufacturer? If new what are thoughts on quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtranger Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 16 hours ago, NM Hevi said: Is this the new Predator RK 55 or from the old manufacturer? If new what are thoughts on quality? Its the old one. I just read a review of the new one on a Facebook group and it sounds like the new one is quite a bit better build quality. I haven't ordered any yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM Hevi Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, mtranger said: Its the old one. I just read a review of the new one on a Facebook group and it sounds like the new one is quite a bit better build quality. I haven't ordered any yet though. Can I ask what group that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtranger Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 52 minutes ago, NM Hevi said: Can I ask what group that is? It is called the "Brotherhood of Custom Crankbait Painting" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreate Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 12/3/2018 at 2:56 PM, mtranger said: If you search "Didspade" on amazon you can get a variety of 5g samples packs (they make approx. 9 oz.). I had a couple bottles of Createx clear coat that I mixed them into and had real good results. The attached picture is 3 or 4 light coats of "riddler" sprayed over black sealer. Thats looks incredible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aulrich Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Lately, I have been painting D&D minis with my sons and while watching a painting demo the guy mentioned using plain water based matte varnish as a replacement for matte medium. I too use pledge and pearl powder and one advantage is that since it goes on clear you get a better feel for the color depth without having to dry and finding out you went too far. In the comment of the mini painting tutorial one guy mentioned using un-tinted house paint base , though I don't know if it is transparent or if it will shoot in an air brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...