DoubleT Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 I recently got some Lureworks Pourasol. I had never used it before and wanted to give it a try. I heated it in the microwave and to my surprise a ton of bubbles formed. It was frothy on top. I thought maybe that it may have been where I added Do-It colorant to Lureworks plastic. I heated another 4 ounces without any colorant at all and it bubbled up as well. Have any of you guys experienced this recently. I plan to give Bruce a call on Monday but thought that I would check here first. I heated up another brand of plastic that I have and it heated up with very little bubbles. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 If you hover over Activity on the upper right, you will see a drop down list. Click on Search and type in "Bubbles" or "Bubbles in plastic" and you should get a ton of information. Very common problem and we've discussed it a bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippinstick Mike Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Pourasol is not for making baits it is a very sift and thin product used to DIP your poured baits in. (Like when adding eyes to a swim bait etc.) I found that 1: it will settle to bubble free in a relatively short period of time, but multiple small bursts are better than longer intervals in the microwave. I start with a min or so continuous, then 30 second increments mixing well between each until it's clear, hot and at the right consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Pourasol is not for making baits !! ?? Hmm... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 this from the web site. ______________________ Pourasol™ 4561 Medium Email this product to a friend Pourasol is a high-quality, low bubble/low odor formula perfect for the beginner or veteran that doesn't want to deal with micro-bubbles. Pourasol is our best selling and most popular plastisol. Formulaically identical to Injectasol, Pourasol has undergone the additional step of being de-aired. Deaeration mitigates the formation of micro-bubbles that can form during the heating process. Pourasol can be used for hand pouring in open molds or hand injecting in aluminum molds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippinstick Mike Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 My mistake. Clearasol is for dipping. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammingjack Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 I hate bubbles! Find a plastic that you don't have to babysit or work around it's flaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cub48 Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Are you checking your temperature over heating can cause more bubbles . I have not used Lureworks Plastic but i have had some that was very bad with bubbles. As of now i am using Bait junkys Plastisol it does very well with low bubbles i have even tried the medium that is not degassed and it is good also. I think he sold out to someone else but it still on the market. One thing u can fix u a vacuum system anything from a full blown system to putting 4 oz in a sealed container and using a hand vacuum pump, get a rubber plug drill a hole thru the center find a cylinder it fits and use the hand vacuum pump let set with vacuum on for a few min it will be degassed!! If it stills has bubbles it is the plastisol. Cub48 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 I use Baitjumkys & Lureworks & they are top notch in my opinion. I had a couple issues with bubbles when i was first learning & i heated a small batch. but i let them over heat a little so it was my fault. After that i can set the timer on my microwave & never have to worry about it in the least & never had anymore bubbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleT Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Thanks for the info. I will try heating it slower. Lureworks has a youtube video of them heating pourasol. I heated it relatively in the same manner. I realize it may have been a difference in microwaves though. I heated up some lurecraft economy plastic and it does great. My only concern with it is that it contains phthalates. I plan to call them and discuss the other formulas they offer that are phthalate free to see how they will perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) A cheap digital thermometer will help you to heat the plastisol to the right temps., 350 degrees, in order for it to kick over into a usable material, without burning/scortching it. Just be sure you stir it before you take it's temp, because microwaves heat from the inside out, and the plastisol in the middle will be hotter that what's on the surface. I always add a little heat stabilizer, because I usually err on the too hot side, and I reheat a lot. Edited September 1, 2018 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Moisture from the summer high humidity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleT Posted September 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 10 hours ago, mark poulson said: A cheap digital thermometer will help you to heat the plastisol to the right temps., 350 degrees, in order for it to kick over into a usable material, without burning/scortching it. Just be sure you stir it before you take it's temp, because microwaves heat from the inside out, and the plastisol in the middle will be hotter that what's on the surface. I always add a little heat stabilizer, because I usually err on the too hot side, and I reheat a lot. I use a instant read digital thermometer. It started to get the bubbles about the time it was changing back to thin (330ish). I scraped the bubbles to the outer edge and was able to use it but certainly dont want to have to do that every time. 10 hours ago, MonteSS said: Moisture from the summer high humidity. Now this could have had an impact on things. Not sure what the actual humidity was but it was hot out and it had rained earlier in the day. Whats odd though is that I heated another brand of plastic and it did great. Maybe the lureworks is just more sensitive to humidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammingjack Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Tell you what, I don't like Lureworks plastic and you can see why. But their colors and powders are some of the best out there. IMO Edited September 2, 2018 by Slammingjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleT Posted September 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 9/2/2018 at 11:53 AM, Slammingjack said: But their colors and powders are some of the best out there. IMO Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 regardless what brand you use, eventually science takes over. there is not s single brand on the market that wont bubble eventually. Humidity and how fast it is heated makes the most issues. A degasser is very affordable and will save you a bunch of money in the long run, everyone should own one IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleT Posted September 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 15 hours ago, Baitjunkys said: Humidity and how fast it is heated makes the most issues. A degasser is very affordable and will save you a bunch of money in the long run, everyone should own one IMO. As far as humidity goes how much is too high to heat plastic. I heat my plastic in a microwave. With 8 ounces of plastic I normally go 1.5 min first. Then 45 seconds and on down till I get to around 350ish. Gently stirring between each heat cycle. When degassing do you do it before or after heating the plastic? Thank you for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JBuff Posted September 5, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 A few tips that are strictly from a hand pour perspective: 1) Flakes: I rarely use them but when I do I adhere to the idea of 'less is best'. This helps with issues such as, arching, even flake dispersal and less stirring. I've never had a fish stick it's head up out of the water and tell me the watermelon was perfect but they didn't bite because I didn't have enough flake or wrong color flake. You can always add but you can't subtract and don't get in the habit of adding flakes in reheats, you'll become reliant on the flakes. If you have to in order to achieve the finished bait know that you are because you've curled what you originally put in. The result is usually a "cat turd" rolled in flakes. 2) I use 900W micros on full power, higher wattage micros I have to turn down the power in order to use the same heating sequences. 3) I always stir from the center out in order to disperse the heat as quickly and evenly as possible. 4) Decide how your goal in a finished bait is to be accomplished color wise, meaning either directly with colorant or the influence of flakes. 5) From the start don't do what I did and believe that you're going to remember recipes...you can't. Date each recipe & photo it so you can correspond. 6) Strive for consistency..after all it doesn't serve you to make the immaculate conception if you can't duplicate it. A) Don't question your recipe unless you've changed a colorant supplier, b) don't trust artificial lighting, take the time to walk outside and see it in natural light, it's where the bait is going to be used. 7) "If a fish can see these bubbles it already has a hook in it's mouth", a philosophy I accepted. I wear 4 power glasses to pour as a result I probably see more bubbles than the average bear. I was terribly anal about bubbles when I first started pouring because I was comparing what I made to a machine made. 8 Never forget your humanity, you're not a machine which is why you've chosen to make your own baits to begin with. Individualism, creation & ownership are an extension of your mind, you will have failures and learn from them...you will never be perfect and there's always a next time. 9) No where is it written that you cannot make something, anything is possible until you prove to yourself it isn't. 10) Color is what you say it is, no two people see color alike and is irrelevant because the color only matters to a finned creature with the brain the size of a walnut. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 6 hours ago, DoubleT said: As far as humidity goes how much is too high to heat plastic. I heat my plastic in a microwave. With 8 ounces of plastic I normally go 1.5 min first. Then 45 seconds and on down till I get to around 350ish. Gently stirring between each heat cycle. When degassing do you do it before or after heating the plastic? Thank you for the info. Deair before heating. This allows you to shake the crap out of it and be sure it is mixed properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleT Posted September 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Baitjunkys said: Deair before heating. This allows you to shake the crap out of it and be sure it is mixed properly. Ahhhhhhhh. Gotcha. Thank you Edited September 5, 2018 by DoubleT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parishomme Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 I would Contact the company and let them know what problem you are having and hopefully they will send u a new batch or refund. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 I wouldnt expect a new batch or a refund. Learn the tricks and anything is useable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parishomme Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 If something is not usable why keep trying to use it to me that's a waste of time and money. I recently had that issue and I posted my problem on this site, I contacted the manufacturer and they responded immediately to my concerns and replaced what I had purchased at no extra cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 Bubbles do not make plastic unuseable, yes there a pita. But there is always a workaround. Most guys that been doing this a while understand you have to adapt. Science will never let things work exactly the same everytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Parishomme said: If something is not usable why keep trying to use it to me that's a waste of time and money. I recently had that issue and I posted my problem on this site, I contacted the manufacturer and they responded immediately to my concerns and replaced what I had purchased at no extra cost. Baitjunky is just sharing what he has learned from being in the soft plastic business for years. I am sure it is based on a great deal of past first hand experience. You should contact the manuf. directly, and ask them for help. Everyone has a different policy when it comes to customer service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
