DaveMc1 Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 hours ago, fishon-son said: I like a cut tail....how are the molded tails? I hate them. I use molds but still cut the tails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 10 hours ago, fishon-son said: I like a cut tail....how are the molded tails? Well short of any other description they are perfect, but they tend to be on the thin side so the're not a one size fits all, i like the thin tails as they move nice in little to no current 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) I have the angling ai 4" double dipper tube mold & my next one will be the xtra large mold. I have also hand dipped & I have also injected tubes in one color & then hand dipped them another color so i could have different color tail or ever dipped in two different colors for three colored baits, There are definite advantages to hand dipping including making whatever custom colors you want & they can be made as big & as long as you want, but the big one is it can be done for pennies on the dollar compared to injecting. Injecting is so much quicker with this mold however since it makes 5 at a time that it has the advantage there even if i'm going to dip in other colors because you can knock out a 50 pack in short order. Cutting tails is no big deal with my beefedup version of lurecrafts press & wether hand dipping or using my mold it still has to be done, Without a doubt however Bohon was a tube dipping master way ahead of his time & did an absolutley outstanding job & has helped so many folks get started & made the learning curve pretty much non existent for anyone that was interested in it & for that we should all be thankful. Edited September 17, 2018 by Les Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 Getting that video is like pulling teeth I swear main reason I still want that CD out in the open is that it will soon be a lost technique and that is unacceptable. Like I said, I gave up and just bought a tube mold from angling AI. Going to make a rolling cutter ( also a Bojons information that took me month to find a picture of on line) but as you can see, still no video I'll post what I could find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Parishomme Posted September 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Looking back at all the comments and remarks, pictures. Thanks for your input but We Still have very limited information received from this post. I'm Sure if Bojon were here he would of put an end to this bs by stepping in and would of posted , & answered any questions and would of freely given any information that this post originally started requesting. Definitely He unselfishly has helped many others by sharing all his knowledge. Yes I find it very fustrating as time has passed and will pass as were still without his Cd. Why? Edited September 19, 2018 by Parishomme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 50 minutes ago, Parishomme said: Looking back at all the comments and remarks, pictures. Thanks for your input but We Still have very limited information received from this post. I'm Sure if Bojon were here he would of put an end to this bs by stepping in and would of posted , & answered any questions and would of freely given any information that this post originally started requesting. Definitely He unselfishly has helped many others by sharing all his knowledge. Yes I find it very fustrating as time has passed and will pass as were still without his Cd. Why? You're putting too much into this process he did not have some breakthrough process in fact many that tried it have moved on to other methods, wish I still had the CD's I would send them to you for free as I moved on not long after getting them but trust me you will be underwhelmed at the process its flat out that simple, a few bent wires of you favorite diameter and length a few disposable aluminum pans a couple cheap hot plates and some patience as you won't be breaking any records in production Also keep in mind that most folks from that time period probably aren't even on the site any more Good luck! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, gone2long said: Also keep in mind that most folks from that time period probably aren't even on the site any more Good luck! Good point. Seen many come and go on here through the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 10 hours ago, alsworms said: Good point. Seen many come and go on here through the years. Yeah its a shame, to put it in perspective I searched for these videos and found a thread where the links were still on the page albeit broken and decided maybe we could reach out to the individual that posted them to see if he still may have them 1 he has not signed on in quite a long time and 2 and the more important one is his birthday was something in the early 30's so we are prolly loosing many from the period in which hand pouring was king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Dead Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 I wish to suggest to take what you have from this thread and move out on your own path and perfect a new process using the bits of information. Post your process here and asses any received critiques. You maybe very surprised at the final results. Yes it it is too bad that we tend to lose great information from history but I am only seeing great improvement in equipment and techniques all brought to us by guys and gals with a vision, the how to, and no fear of failure. Good luck and let the imagination run! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 Walking Dead - Now that is a very good suggestion. Dave 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Yes it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Someone needs to propose an initial horizontal dipping block design for discussion purposes, so that the idea can be 'fine-tuned' before starting. This should cut down on the trial and error phase. I am not a 'plastics guy', so you guys need to get to grips with this idea. A simple sketch is all that is needed for discussion. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Dead Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Mentions bojon: http://www.joefishin.com/TubeMaking.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Walking dead - interesting. I had visualized an 'S'-shaped rod set in a block, group of 4 or 5. Some kind of bending jig would have to be fabricated to form all the rods to identical parameters. I would imagine 6 blocks of 5 rods for an efficient dipping session. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parishomme Posted September 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 22,800 members & no one can provide any new or additional information , besides what is posted or what we have on this technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 Parishomme - I do understand your frustration, but it is what it is. I think it is time to move on and deal with the problem of horizontal dipping and come up with a workable solution. I do not see this a complicated issue. Dave 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Parishomme said: 22,800 members Now that right there is funny this site has nowhere near that number of active members more like a few thousand divide that by the number that work with and frequent the soft plastics forum and well the number is quite small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 I have looked and not come across the clips he sent me years ago. However dipping tubes is about as easy as it gets and doesn't have to be messy or complicated. So much of what we do boils down to the skill set and ability one has or more importantly doesn't have. For the cost, ease, and speed dipping tubes is surprisingly quick process. Personally I didn't find horizontal dipping as a decent method... well in a bread pan set up and the L shaped dipping rod/handle set up but am using a modified vertical to horizontal method. The proper sized spike that I round over the point was the route I went with and the spike head slides into a holder to hang vertically. One can flat out dip a lot of tubes fast if they have the ability and are set up properly. I preferred to have multiple 4 oz cups ready to go. Or would do a single 4 oz cup and tweak when color matching or doing custom colors for guys (could then layout the tubes for comparison in a single shot or send them to the guy depending on volume ordered). I would heat up the first cup and have it ready to dip and maintain a second and third cup with brief heating so they were ready to go once the first cup was dipped out. I had about 100 dipping rods. The cup is tiled slightly so that you can dip and twist the rod and get a bout a 4 1/2 inch dip on the spike. You pull it out invert/twist and hang and as long as you control temperatures you get no dimple in the front of the tube. I could dip out a 4 oz cup until just a thin coating of plastic was left then started on the second cup... then the third. The tubes easily slide off the pre lubricated spikes (worm oil) and are ready to be cut to length and tails split. Almost all my tubes are the gitzit style tube. Takes more time to do the bulkier flipping style tube but if you use cooler plastic can build up the thicker wall easily. If the spikes get too hot (yes you can dip and slide off tubes that quick) and you don't control the temperature you run into issues. You can work on thickness based on plastic temperature but then going to have to reheat plastic. Easier just to thinner multiple coats in my opinion. I hang the spikes on egg crate attached to a shelf or had a shelf with routed slots for the spike to slide into and rest (egg crate my preferred method). So for less than 40 bucks one can have enough rods to dip until you heart is content. Temperatures have no clue always been the type you know when the temp is right type. Easy hobby no need to over complicate things. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 Travis, really nice looking tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 I really like that watermelon purple/aqua. Looks good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgzee1 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 I can help if someone is still interested. I've been Dipping Since the 80'S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixon529 Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 6:55 AM, gone2long said: Yeah its a shame, to put it in perspective I searched for these videos and found a thread where the links were still on the page albeit broken and decided maybe we could reach out to the individual that posted them to see if he still may have them 1 he has not signed on in quite a long time and 2 and the more important one is his birthday was something in the early 30's so we are prolly loosing many from the period in which hand pouring was king We all know that Bojon (Ron) has passed away. I did a little research and found that JSC (the member with a birthdate from the 30s) has also passed away as of June 2017 in Florida. RIP both. I sincerely hope that we all warmly remember these two members and keep in mind that they always selflessly shared their respective knowledge and experiences with all who indulge in lure making. I hope we all continue their legacy of sharing and respect. Maybe someday before it becomes "lost to the ages", someone will share the Bojon DVD. I'm sure Ron would want that. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Les Young Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Guys i don't know if this will help any or not, but if you click 2 or 3 times it should open big enough to read easily. This was posted on wmi or something like that once & i took a pic with my phone just so i'd have it if it was needed. Sorry it's not his cd, but it should help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
