ddl Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 im really disappointed ,ive just airbrushed autoborn sealer over baked powder paint spinnerbaits head and i can removed it just by sweeping my thumb on it ,it don't even need water just one pass and gone . so im sure you know what's my question , what's brand could stick on that ? it's not easy all ,even createx don't work at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) My first question is what is your base color and what color(s) are you trying to put over your base color? My next question is why not use powder paint as your 2nd, 3rd and 4th colors. Unless you are trying to make scaling, I apply up to 6 colors of powder paint onto my base color. No need to start another process by spray painting. Take a look at my avatar. Lot of colors there. JMO PS: I've read that people bake their jigs after they apply createx over powder paint. Don't know if that works or solves your problem. Edited September 30, 2018 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 it was chartreuse powder, and i want to use all kind of colors , with powder we can't do complex desing like we can do with airbrush and real airbrush paint colors are just nicer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 Baking works with acrylic hobby paint, though sometimes you get a small colour change, or if you have to much powder stuff can shift( I just add eyes to jigs). I epoxy topcoat just for good measure. Not sure if you want the extra step. Try Cadman's baking idea at lower temperature to see what happens with your paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 15 hours ago, cadman said: My first question is what is your base color and what color(s) are you trying to put over your base color? My next question is why not use powder paint as your 2nd, 3rd and 4th colors. Unless you are trying to make scaling, I apply up to 6 colors of powder paint onto my base color. No need to start another process by spray painting. Take a look at my avatar. Lot of colors there. JMO PS: I've read that people bake their jigs after they apply createx over powder paint. Don't know if that works or solves your problem. I can tell you that, for me, I am no Ted Cadman magician when it comes to multiple powder coat colors. I still marvel at how much detail you can achieve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladesandbaits Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 Powder Coat / Bake Powder Coat / Paint with Acrylic Lacquer / Clearcoat. Lacquer will bond to the cured powder and wont come off unless cured powder chips. Regards, Blades 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 thanks,did you airbrush it ,any brand that you recommand ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladesandbaits Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 Yes sir , airbrush. I use RM Lacquer which is vertually impossible to source anymore but Polytranspar (brand) is very good and can be bought in small quantity. Not to discourage you but lacquer is a totally different animal than water base paint. ( Another subject altogether) I haven't searched the forum to see if there is info on basic use. Mckezee (spelling) taxidermy supply is the source for PT. Regards, Blades 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 tks a lot .i'll take a look, i think that's a taxidermist co if my memory is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caster Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 We paint over powder a lot. We use a Epoxy and Lacquer over the powder then we spray a 4 to 1 clear poly over them. Makes a nice hard finish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddl Posted October 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 cheers! guys btw don't waist your time with createx it don't stick at all,even a wet piece of clothe will completely remove all the paints with just one pass.maybe auto air is better or wicked ? but once it don't stick at all like that even the best epoxy over it will not make miracle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caster Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 Make sure your powder is cured. Spray your Epoxy and let it cure or if your spraying lacquer over powder let it cure for 15 to 20 min, then spray your poly clear coat. This will work we do it almost every day. Caster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladesandbaits Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 hours ago, ddl said: tks a lot .i'll take a look, i think that's a taxidermist co if my memory is good Yes sir. Polytranspar was a Wasco Taxidermy inc. Product and Mckenzee Taxidermy purchased them. There in North Carolina and can be found on the web. Regards, Blades 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Fishing Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 4:33 PM, ddl said: cheers! guys btw don't waist your time with createx it don't stick at all,even a wet piece of clothe will completely remove all the paints with just one pass.maybe auto air is better or wicked ? but once it don't stick at all like that even the best epoxy over it will not make miracle DDL, How long did you allow the Autoborne sealer to cure? Autoborne sealer works best when heat cured. Barring that, it requires a minimum of 48 curing time. I can't speak to how it performs over powder paint, but our customers have had success applying it over a number of other finishes. You can partially cure it with a heat gun between coats -- this will reduce your wait time between coats, but I've found it's not a substitute for time/baking. Hope that helps. Good Fishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
