mark poulson Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 I'm looking for a supplier who sells Calhoun's plastic by the gallon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBuff Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 That would be me..Fringe Tackle Co. What can I do for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, JBuff said: That would be me..Fringe Tackle Co. What can I do for you? Do you sell the same degassed plastic that Bait Junky used to sell? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 hours ago, mark poulson said: Do you sell the same degassed plastic that Bait Junky used to sell? No, Leonard used to degas Calhoun plastic himself and there is no one else selling the same plastic already degassed. You would be far ahead of to just buy a simple setup and do it yourself prior to cooking it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Either that or if you're dead set that you need a pre-degassed plastic then order LureWorks Pourasol Edited January 7, 2019 by DaveMc1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, DaveMc1 said: Either that or if you're dead set that you need a pre-degassed plastic then order LureWorks Pourasol I think I'll go that way next gallon I buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Will nondegassed plastic have a lot of bubbles if left alone & just heated in the microwave ? Edited January 7, 2019 by Les Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Lureworks pourasol is good stuff for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, Les Young said: Will nondegassed plastic have a lot of bubbles if left alone & just heated in the microwave ? I've never used degassed plastisol or had problems with bubbles. I've poured calhoun, chemionics, mf, and one that del used to sell but the name escapes me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 hours ago, bryanmc said: I've never used degassed plastisol or had problems with bubbles. I've poured calhoun, chemionics, mf, and one that del used to sell but the name escapes me. He sold Calhoun to start and then switched to Poly One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Thanks Dave. That’s good to know., I may give it a try next time. Edited January 7, 2019 by Les Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryanmc Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 hours ago, DaveMc1 said: He sold Calhoun to start and then switched to Poly One That was it, thanks. I kept thinking polysol, but knew that wasn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBuff Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 4:14 PM, mark poulson said: Do you sell the same degassed plastic that Bait Junky used to sell? Same plastisol not degassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBuff Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I've let this thread play itself out to a degree in an effort to establish what the most common thought patterns are. We're the Calhoun Distributor as was Baitjunkies and Leonard did an outstanding job, it's our goal to continue what he established. I've been pouring (not injecting) Calhoun for 10 yrs and like the cell phone (what did we do before their invent) have never used degassed plastisol. There are two trains of thought. 1) The plastisol is to blame & 2) Over mixing Understanding DIY as I do having the same roots, there's going to always exist a base of 'need' depending on whether a person can use a certain amount of plastisol within a given period of time. ie if a person has limited time to pour/shoot with limited cavity counts they may only go through a gallon every two weeks. This scenario requires different re-mixing of material. If a person has more time and higher cavity counts they will use more material and faster which in turn will require fewer remixes. I do find the degassing issue interesting in so much as not having ever done it I have to ask "does degassing save time"? It's seems to me that the amount of time it would take would be similar to just heating and wait for the bubbles to rise naturally. On the outside it appears to me that a step is being added with the same end result. I'd like to read some responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 were you find degassing a advantage, is the ability to mix the hell out of it, and post degass. It is science and it is a chemical, it is going to settle, and it is going to aerate at it current viscosity. a thinner material dont aerate as badly if at all. But...... Thinner material also has other drawbacks. Like it ability to suspend. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBuff Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Baitjunkys said: were you find degassing a advantage, is the ability to mix the hell out of it, and post degass. It is science and it is a chemical, it is going to settle, and it is going to aerate at it current viscosity. a thinner material dont aerate as badly if at all. But...... Thinner material also has other drawbacks. Like it ability to suspend. An issue I've never seen addressed is whether or not degassing affects bouyancy? So much is made of bouyancy of different grades of plastisol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, JBuff said: An issue I've never seen addressed is whether or not degassing affects bouyancy? So much is made of bouyancy of different grades of plastisol. scientifically, why would it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBuff Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Baitjunkys said: scientifically, why would it? I didn't believe it would I just hadn't seen any posts on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 12 hours ago, JBuff said: I've let this thread play itself out to a degree in an effort to establish what the most common thought patterns are. We're the Calhoun Distributor as was Baitjunkies and Leonard did an outstanding job, it's our goal to continue what he established. I've been pouring (not injecting) Calhoun for 10 yrs and like the cell phone (what did we do before their invent) have never used degassed plastisol. There are two trains of thought. 1) The plastisol is to blame & 2) Over mixing Understanding DIY as I do having the same roots, there's going to always exist a base of 'need' depending on whether a person can use a certain amount of plastisol within a given period of time. ie if a person has limited time to pour/shoot with limited cavity counts they may only go through a gallon every two weeks. This scenario requires different re-mixing of material. If a person has more time and higher cavity counts they will use more material and faster which in turn will require fewer remixes. I do find the degassing issue interesting in so much as not having ever done it I have to ask "does degassing save time"? It's seems to me that the amount of time it would take would be similar to just heating and wait for the bubbles to rise naturally. On the outside it appears to me that a step is being added with the same end result. I'd like to read some responses. If you are going to continue what was being done before with the same plastic then there is no question about having to degass. Many guys want it done. Is it another step yes for for you. Will it take time yes. Will it cost you more money to get the equipment to do it yes. But that is what it will take to carry on what was done before. I have been doing it for myself for years and for me it was a no brainer to get my own equipment. I have told anyone who wants to do it how to and even posted a picture of my set up here before. But some will not want to do it and it is up to you to acomidate them or send them to another supplier that does it for them. I don’t know what the sales ratios of degassed to standard sale were but if you don’t offer it then in my mind you are loosing out. You must be open to what others want and change if necessary. It is not weather you see a benefit in it it is if your customer does. Already on this post people have given another supplier that does this for them. Do you want to lose even more customers? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBuff Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Frank said: If you are going to continue what was being done before with the same plastic then there is no question about having to degass. Many guys want it done. Is it another step yes for for you. Will it take time yes. Will it cost you more money to get the equipment to do it yes. But that is what it will take to carry on what was done before. I have been doing it for myself for years and for me it was a no brainer to get my own equipment. I have told anyone who wants to do it how to and even posted a picture of my set up here before. But some will not want to do it and it is up to you to acomidate them or send them to another supplier that does it for them. I don’t know what the sales ratios of degassed to standard sale were but if you don’t offer it then in my mind you are loosing out. You must be open to what others want and change if necessary. It is not weather you see a benefit in it it is if your customer does. Already on this post people have given another supplier that does this for them. Do you want to lose even more customers? Thanks Frank, I appreciate the input and this is why I'm monitoring this thread. Now that we've relocated into a much larger shop we'll have the needed space to degass. I would point out this, for nearly 7 months many people were under the impression they were still acquiring Baitjunkies degassed when in fact they were getting poly sol that as far as I know wasn't. In effect Fringe is in the process of getting back people who were use to Calhoun via Leonard. Degassing is one of several avenues to achieve that. Thanks again. Edited January 9, 2019 by JBuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Boys Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Why did they think they were getting Calhouns when it was Poly Sol ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 FTR, that happened for about 2 weeks, not 7 months. when they took our name of it and rebranded BJ 200, they were using there own formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canga~ Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Baitjunkys said: FTR, that happened for about 2 weeks, not 7 months. when they took our name of it and rebranded BJ 200, they were using there own formula. i ordered some baitjunkys from them in the begining of august, and again in september, and there was a definate difference in the plastics. but they were up front that they couldnt get the baitjunkys from the supplier, and that the new blend was their own stuff, said to be similar to baitjunkys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Young Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 i’ll be buying from JBuff next time myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBuff Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Les Young said: i’ll be buying from JBuff next time myself. For logistics purposes since we just relocated the first trial run of Med should be delivered today or tomorrow, I completed the ramp for offloading yesterday. 1/2 of the drum is ordered so I still have some of it available. I'll offer this up 2 single gallons $38.00 plus shipping until I run out on this particular drum. PM me if your interested. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
