azsouth Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 The left bottle of KBS is almost a year old and the right bottle is brand new from Amazon Amazon did refund my $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpfishing Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Mine was that way also. Seems to be fine. I have dipped a hand full of lures with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 New formula, supposed to be more shelf stable. Still dries nice and clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, BBK said: New formula, supposed to be more shelf stable. Still dries nice and clear. they might want to let people know it is not Gin clear any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Fisher Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 My old KBS turned that color when it got old, my recent can from LPO was the clear stuff and I had to destroy the can to get it open. Hadn't heard of a new formula, when was this released, anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, AZ Fisher said: My old KBS turned that color when it got old, my recent can from LPO was the clear stuff and I had to destroy the can to get it open. Hadn't heard of a new formula, when was this released, anyone know? Its been floating around the facebook groups for probably 3-4 months, someone eventually contacted KBS and they said it was a new formula that has better stabilizers for long term storage... how new and if its still the newest I have no idea. The can also opens easily on the yellow stuff. There was also a bad batch of KBS I've heard talked about, but it was supposed to be removed from shelves, I'm not sure what the exact issue with it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 both cans I just got had to destroy to open, yes both were yellow tint and not easier to open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 it seems that the people at KBS are unwilling or unable to answer this simple question. is the yellowing a new formula or a bad batch? I personally don't like the run around, yet they still claim clear as water. they also stated that the yellow tint is a uv stabilizer. so is it a new formula or a bad batch? https://www.kbs-coatings.com/DiamondFinish-Clear.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 I think you are overthinking this. Doesn't really matter what it is if it works, dip a bait and find out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Fisher Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Here are the responses to my ?, from the KBS help desk at KBS.com: " Has your Diamond clear been recently reformulated? In some fishing forums, reports of new yellowish tinted Diamond Clear have been popping up. My Diamond Clear from a couple years ago yellowed when older. my recent can from Oct. was crystal clear. Rumor is the new formula is more shelf stable but has a yellow tint to it. If it's still Diamond Clear, why does it have a yellow tint. Could you please set me straight on this matter, thank you for your time, Will " Kbs help desk response, "Thank you for contacting KBS.... Yes DiamondFinish Clear can sometimes appear slightly yellow when looking at it in the can. The slight yellow is a UV Stabilizer enhancement. You will never see the slight yellow when the product is actually applied at the 5-10 mils Dry Film Thickness as it will appear completely clear even over a brilliant white surface. Thanks for contacting KBS..." My follow up response: "Thanks for your reply. So this isn't a new formula, just a UV enhancer turning yellow or is it now being produced new, from the factory with a yellow tint? Thanks again, Will" KBS response: "Yes, it is the same Diamondfinish Clear formula with a UV enhancer. We have tested it extensively and you can not see it once it has been applied and cured. That said, we may take this enhancement away because it does seem to cause confusion for customers when they see it in the can. Thank you so much..." I guess it depends on how you look at their response. I feel I asked twice if the new stuff was being produced with a yellow tint, with no clear answer other than don't mind the man behind the curtain. In the grand scheme I guess a little yellow doesn't matter much... but it used to be clear, is advertised as crystal clear and now isn't. I guess it's up to the individual consumer if it's cool with them, lots of stuff out there. Forgive me if I seem cynical, been dealing with double talking health ins industry people, well you know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Maybe I am just old and grumpy, but I like the truth still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT204 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just got a pint from KBS a couple days ago and it's crystal clear in jar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsouth Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 thanks everyone for your comments, I appreciate the feed back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBK Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 If anyone wants to buy direct from KBS, here is a 15% off referral. http://kbscoatings.refr.cc/Kbs15off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
