Haebar Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 When you talk to businesses about getting their tire weights do you offer to pay them for it? What is a fair price to offer? Thanks, Haebar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Call your local recycling center and ask them what they would pay you for them. Tell you have a few 5 gallon pails. You are better off to get your lead else where, wheel weights are really hard lead. Small stuff (under 1/2 oz) is impos. to pour with this grade of lead. Unless you heat it really hot. DO some searches on here and you find the best stuff to get. I buy the good stuff for $0.18 a pound or less. Trade 1 jig head per lb. I trade 2 lbs of finish sinkers for a bucket of wheel weights. Lots of waste in wheel weights. Lots of nasty smelly work cleaning up them too. Do it out side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haebar Posted October 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Okay thanks! I guess I'll buy lead or get it at the recyclers. My experiences in trying to get it from tire places has not been good. They either won't talk about it or they want too much for them. It's not worth my time to be calling and running all over the place to pay for dirty, hard lead that I'll have to spend even more time cleaning up and melting into ingots. I can get it at plumbers supply for around $1.20 a pound and I haven't checked at the metal recycling place near here. I may even try the stuff they use for stained glass crafts if it's not too expensive. Thanks, HAebar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Good plan. I think the stain glass stuff is more like a soder now a days, so that is not good. Plumbers lead is good, But I would go broke buying it at that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Look at my post under "Lead Question" Soft or "chilled" shot from a reloading supply place should be $14.00-16.-- per 25#, and is just fine. Try to find an indoor gun range, although the lead will be hard and give the same problems as tire weights on smaller stuff. If do get it too work on 1/8 oz. jigs, but ti is problematic on 1/16 and smaller. Have to go to my stash of pure lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 I mix 1/2 wheel weight lead and 1/2 pure lead. It works just fine and it spreads the cost out a little further. Wheel weights have a lot of antimony and tin in it. That's what makes it brittle.(hard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Haebar are you that handle a E_bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRIPLE C CUSTOM LURES Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 I dont know what kind of lead i got but it is soft, you can imprint your finger nail very easy. I got 200 pounds for 40.00. Not to bad. And it works great. You need to look under metal salvages in the yellow pages and just call around, ask for soft lead, most will say tire wheights, you dont want that. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 3 C's good buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 3Cs At 5Lbs/$1 for good stuff - you should be stocking up. Can't have too much good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haebar Posted November 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 3 Cs: Did you get that deal on soft lead at a salvage yard or recycling place? I finally found some lead weights at a tire place yesterday. Bought about 600 pounds for $70.00 (about 12 cents a pound). But don't know how much of that weight will be waste. I was just happy to find some available. Now I'm going to try to find some soft lead to mix with it for casting. How should I clean these up? Do you wash them with soap and water? Or do you just melt them down and scoop out the non-lead parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 I do it outside it will stink.....bad. On a propane turkey fryer, with a cast iron pot. Scoop it with a cast iron ladle. You will need some thing to make bars with. A ingot mold, or I use 2 alum. bread pans, I tip them up on a brick. That way I can put about 2 lbs in each at the end. Watch out they get hot and you need to rest them. Getting the solid lead out as fast as you can will make them last longer, and flip them to use each end. Not to fast or they will crumble. Only fill the pot half way because all the waste is going to float up to the top. Waste will be like 35% or higher. Clipps and crap. Watch out for the stems and caps, they will turn your stomach. There are all kinds of cleaners and tire treatments on those and there will be fumes. This is not a quick thing, take you time, that much will be at least 3 hours to clean. You will also need a container to put the slag and clipps in, in must not melt or burn. Eye protection and full clothing!!!!!!! I use long heavy welding gloves. Jump back when ever you hear a pop or sizzle. ANY WATER HITTING MOLTEN LEAD WILL EXPLODE! Becareful and safe, lead doesn't forgive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haebar Posted November 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Richoc, Thanks for taking the time to type all that info for me! You have been a big help. I found one of those scuba diver belt weights in one of those buckets! I wonder why that would be in a bucket of weights from a tire store? Maybe someone got tired of it laying around and wanted to dispose of it correctly so they took it there. I've got a cast iron skillet thing that is made for making cornbread, with about 10 or 12 compartments shaped like pie slices. Do you think this would make a good ingot mold or would it be to hard to get the lead out of it after it has cooled? (I got rid of all my bread pans a year or so ago because I haven't used them in years). What do you use to pick out the waste from the pot of molten lead? your ladle? I'm thinking about getting a turkey fryer to clean this stuff up, I've seen where others have used one of these. What do you think? What kind of pot should I use, cast iron or will thick aluminum do? There is a thick aluminum allow pressure cooker at Goodwill with a lid that doesn't fit I could probably get cheap. Thanks, Haebar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markell Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Haebar, My favorite skimmer is a large serving spoon with holes in it. You could make a longer handle for it. It works like a big strainer, the lead flows back through the holes and the scum collects on the spoon. Those cast iron skillets work great for ingots. I found one that makes muffins that are a perfect size for my pot. Just be carefull and take your time. The times I have gotten burned have been when I got in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 I was at our new sports mans warehouse that just opened. They have small dutch oven for like $9, these wold work great. You might need to grind the feet off. Do not get too big of one, the second size from the bottom will hold 20lbs easy. You want hight so you can dip the lead out easy. Going to get ones these when this kettle dies. Other wise get one of the other cast iron kettles out there. Use that muffin pan that will make a great ingot mold. I skim the top with just a good old long handle cast iron ladle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebler_custom_baits Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 i got 100 lbs of old printing stamps for 10.00 delivered. They work well. It is a little hard though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRIPLE C CUSTOM LURES Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 sorry guys havent been on in a while. the lead i got was soft lead. thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbass Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 I dont know if its been mentioned before, but aluminum cupcake or muffin pans work pretty good for making ingots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I dont know if its been mentioned before, but aluminum cupcake or muffin pans work pretty good for making ingots. Just make sure that you get the pans good and hot before pouring lead, or you will end up with a very unusual boat anchor. Don't ask me how I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richoc Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Boomer you have confused. You need to just pour little bars. Faster you do the the hotter the pans will become, then they fail at what you want them to do. Cooler is better as you want the lead to set as quick as possaible so you can dump the chunk out. And get to pouring more. I rest my alum. bread pans because I have way deformed then getting the to hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
