nwbass Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 I ordered some 5304 Owner hooks for the Do-It Hidden Eye Brush Mold. I've seen some of you mention using these hooks with this mold. The 4/0 hooks do not fit. The mold will not close. I called Barlow's. The guy I talked to was very helpful. He went and got the same hooks and the same mold and his wouldn't close either. The hook eyes are just a little too small. So... I want to alter my mold to allow these hooks to fit. Have any of you performed this specific task? Any suggestions? Thanks for your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 That is one mold that I don't use the 5304 with. Now, the only way to make that hook fit is to grind the post until the hook sit in the cavity with the post inside the eye. Some molds that have that post are fine just by taking the post off altogether but not the brush jig. The reason is because of the recessed line tie , if you take the post off you'll have a lot of clean up to do. Maybe someone who has used that hook with that mold can help but if not you can see if anyone wants to buy the hooks you have or trade you some Mustads, VMC, or even the Owner 5317 which has a larger eye and will fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwbass Posted April 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Thanks for the reply. I would like to grind the mold down and use these hooks. I have never altered a mold before. I don't want to ruin it. I am looking for suggestions from anybody who has experience doing so. Do I use sandpaper? Dremel? If so, which bit? I'm hoping to benefit from someone else's trial and error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 nwbass, I use both brush jig mold models with the #5304 hooks, without any problems. I just looked at my molds, and none of my hook eye pins have been removed from the molds. With that said, I believe that the hook eye pins are tapered. First of all what hook sizes are you wanting to put in what head sizes(ounces) You can't put a 1/0 #5304 hook in a 1 oz hidden brush jig. You can , but you will have to remove the hook eye pin from the mold, and like smalljaw mentioned you will have a lot of clean-up. So let's start with what hook sizes you want in each mold cavity, and then we can go from there. Attached is a pic of #5304 Owner deep throat hook in a brush jig. So yes it can be done with minimal effort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwbass Posted April 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) cadman, I am using the BSH-3-SA mold. I am trying to use 4/0 hooks(Owner 5304) for 3/8 oz and 1/2 oz jigs. These hooks fit the 1/4 oz. SOME of the hooks fit the 3/8, allowing the mold to close. None of them fit the 1/2 oz. I called Barlow's and they tried the same hook on the same mold with the same results. Edited April 3, 2019 by nwbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwbass Posted April 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) I have some 5/0 5304s. They fit. But, is a 5/0 hook overkill for a 3/8 oz brush jig? I'm worried it will get hung up easier. Edited April 3, 2019 by nwbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 I checked my 5304 and they fit all the heads in that series. You have a PM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKodiakWay Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 I also use the 5304's in my brush jigs. If memory serves, things didn't quite fit right at first, but a hard smack or two and we're A-ok. Cheaters note, The VMC Barbarians are VERY similar design, and lots cheaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...