ravenlures Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 One question I am about to get some spinner baits do you prefer R-bend.....Barrel roll...……… Twist. Musky size 3/4oz to 2oz. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 If you are using them for musky then you will want the twisted wire form also known as a closed loop. The closed loop makes a bait a little more durable but it cuts vibration down. It can also pinch your line but again, if using them for musky that isn't going to be an issue. Bass anglers usually use 10lb to 15lb line fluorocarbon or monofilament or 30 to 50lb braid with spinnerbaits so the line is thin and if the bait turns during the cast it can catch and get pinched on the twisted wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 I agree with smalljaw. However I use the R wire only. In order to help keep its shape and prolong its life, I wrap braided line around the R then I tie and glue it. That doesn’t have any effect on the way it performs and makes it a lot more durable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted September 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 Would you get better vibe's from a barrel roll because of its flexing. I could see the closed wire for heaver baits. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21xdc Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 Barrel Roll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 I use twisted wire for northern pike and musky. "R" bend for everything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Jig Man said: I agree with smalljaw. However I use the R wire only. In order to help keep its shape and prolong its life, I wrap braided line around the R then I tie and glue it. That doesn’t have any effect on the way it performs and makes it a lot more durable. I do the same thing to my .035" R bend spinnerbaits with 26 gauge wire, and coat it with gap filling super glue. My spinnerbaits don't open up after a good fish, and they seem to vibrate just fine. I get bit on them. I bought some twist wire .045" 5/8 oz spinnerbaits, and the heavier wire doesn't seem to vibrate as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 When you say "barrel roll" are you talking about a spring loop like you see on a beetle spin wire form? I would think that would work as well but it isn't used very much and I wouldn't be able to tell you if it is better. I was told a long time ago that the reason you don't see many larger spinnerbaits with that type of line tie is because when you tie your line to it you are stopping the blade arm from vibrating. I don't know if that is true or not but I do know that when fishing the same size spinnerbait in a closed loop and an "R" bend on the same line, rod, and reel made in the same wire diameter you can feel the difference. The "R" bend vibrates noticeably more than a closed loop but I'm not sure if it is enough to make a huge difference in the amount of fish you catch. The other issue is wire diameter and bending the spring loop, if that is what you mean by barrel roll. I make that loop with .031" wire for beetle spin wire forms and I use a round nose pliers to do it but it would be hard doing it with anything over .041" which makes the twisted or closed loop a better option but again, I'm not sure about the barrel roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 I only use the closed loop. No R bends for me on any size. They just give less trouble with a snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted September 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Smalljaw Yes that is what I was talking about a barrel roll, years ago I made a tool that made barrel rolls for musky baits but can't seem to find it so before I make another I was just wondering if it will make some sort of difference. Thanks Guys for all the information. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
